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Animal Discovery — Nonprofit

two cryptozoologists who saw pterodactyls

By Jonathan Whitcomb

I am the executive director of the nonprofit Animal Discovery, which emphasizes searching for certain cryptids that have been seen by eyewitnesses. Our motto is “We listen to you.”

From the page About the Ropen “Pterodactyl” on the official blog of this nonprofit organization:

Since the year 2003, I [Jonathan Whitcomb] have held a special interest in eyewitness reports of a flying creature that has become known as the ropen, what some persons have called a “pterodactyl” or a “flying dinosaur”. The word ropen comes from the Kovai language of Umboi Island in Papua New Guinea, although over the past fourteen years it has become known around the world as a word that refers to any modern flying creature that appears to an eyewitness to be a featherless long-tailed pterosaur . . .

Report your sighting of a pterodactyl

two cryptozoologists who saw pterodactyls

Milt Marcy (left) and Peter Beach, in S.E. Washington state

I’m delighted that these two cryptozoologists are on the board of directors for Animal Discovery. Both of them have been on an expedition on New Britain Island, Papua New Guinea, and not only were they searching for a modern living pterosaur but they found and videotaped such a flying creature.

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What is a Ropen?

Reports of smaller ones, less than three meters in wingspan, in the Manus Island area of Papua New Guinea (second-hand accounts) might be juveniles of the same species as the larger ones on or around Umboi Island.

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Pterodactyl Sightings

Scott Norman, a cryptozoologist from Southern California, decided to meet with some of his associates in central California, where people had reported living pterosaurs. He was skeptical, thinking that they had videotaped only a bird at night. When he spent a night watching the sky, however, he saw something like a Pteranodon . . .

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Ropen Pterodactyl

Hodgkinson was hiking up into the interior, away from Finschhafen, with an army buddy, when the two soldiers encountered the strange flying creature. In a jungle clearing with moderately high grass, a clearing about a hundred feet in diameter, the two men saw something at the far side, something astonishing. From the scientific paper “Reports of Living Pterosaurs in the Southwest Pacific,” we read . . .

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Two cryptozoologists see a modern pterosaur

I was delighted to discover, earlier this week, the Youtube video “PNG Expedition 2015 Documentary (Milt Marcy).” I talked with Milt Marcy and Peter Beach, by phone, soon after they returned to the USA from their expedition on New Britain Island, Papua New Guinea . . .

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An eyewitness sees a ropen

From a comment on this Youtube video (ANOTHER eyewitness): “You don’t have to go to New Guinea to see one! I saw one back in 1968 in Lansing, Illinois and in broad daylight! People in the USA are seeing these things more and more . . .”

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Ropen animal discovery

How do I know that a ropen with a thirty-foot wingspan, now hunting house cats and killing chickens in Nevada, is the same animal seen in Draper, Utah, a few years ago? The one in Utah was about that size, or a bit smaller, and was there hunting house cats and killing chickens.

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Why Believe Eyewitnesses of Modern Pterosaurs?

from Facebook Note "Can we Trust Witnesses" - blind lady of justice, with scales

By the cryptozoologist Jonathan Whitcomb

Late in 2019, I responded to a skeptical comment on one of my Youtube videos. My detailed response was in a Facebook Note: “Can we Trust Witnesses?”, yet people need to get an even bigger picture, for critics have brought up similar skeptical comments over the years.

Here’s that full critical comment that was made in December of 2019:

“Witness reports re [sic] not nearly as credible as you would like to believe. It is a fact that perspective is usually lost when viewing objects, birds flying in the air.” [comment by Dan Carlson, about December 30, 2019]

That video, “Pterodactyl Sightings in Los Angeles”, is on my Youtube channel Protect Animal Life. Watch it to see the context:

Every Communication Involves a Witness

I found it interesting that the skeptic used the phrase “witness reports”, for he probably meant eyewitness reports. His word choice, however, helps me respond to his comment.

Whenever someone communicates an idea, whether it’s in words or is nonverbal, he or she is a witness of that idea. The person does not have to have been an eyewitness of anything; many ideas do not come directly from observing anything with the eyes, nevertheless, that person is a witness: He or she communicates what was perceived in the mind.

The Least-Credible Witness

Over the past 16 years I (Jonathan Whitcomb) have encountered a number of skeptics, including those who actively oppose the idea that not all species of pterosaurs are extinct. Some of them have made comments like this:

“Eyewitness reports of apparent living pterosaurs should not be trusted because people do not see nearly perfectly with their eyes and they also do not remember nearly perfectly.”

Yet what is in the mind of the critic? Is that person observing carefully a well-crafted idea? The more that we precisely envision the correct idea, the further we get from what the critic was actually thinking. Indeed, the skeptic who makes a statement like the above, in order to convince people that nobody has ever seen a living pterosaur—that skeptic is far less credible than the eyewitness, although that’s not obvious to critics.

Of course human visual perception and memory is imperfect, to say the least. Yet we have something even LESS reliable than witnessing something with our eyes. It’s related to witnessing something in the imagination.

When a person has a preconceived opinion on an idea (generally a bias for or against the idea), he or she may be the least reliable witness, far less reliable than the person who has seen something with the eyes. Of course exceptions are possible, yet when hundreds of eyewitnesses testify of something that goes against the imagination of one skeptic, that skeptic’s imagination is less valuable by far than the testimonies of hundreds of eyewitnesses, especially when those hundreds of persons describe details that clearly point to modern pterosaurs rather than to any other interpretations.

from Facebook Note "Can we Trust Witnesses" - blind lady of justice, with scales

Consider what people around the world have seen, then judge

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Modern Pterodactyl

Short Youtube music-video about living pterosaurs

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Living Pterosaurs on Instagram

This is the page Protect Animal Life (PAL) on Instagram

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Top 10 Most Shocking Pterosaurs

Not all paleontologists or biologists believe that it’s impossible for a species of pterosaur to still be alive. In fact, one biologist has searched for living pterosaurs in both North America and in Papua New Guinea: Peter Beach.

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Pterosaur eyewitness

This is a full page about explorers who have searched for these amazing flying creatures, some of the expeditions having been in Papua New Guinea.

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Believe in Modern Pterosaurs

Get your own copy of the nonfiction cryptozoology book Live Pterosaurs in America (third expanded edition).

Whitcomb's nonfiction book "Live Pterosaurs in America"

Significant Living-Pterosaur Blogs

lagoon near buildings in Southern California - screen shot of a modern-pterosaur blog

By the modern-pterosaur cryptozoologist Jonathan Whitcomb

The following is not a complete list of blogs for this narrow branch of cryptozoology, but it probably includes most of the more important ones in the English language. Many of the posts are about ropens.

The main list gives totals for posts and pages; these are approximate, but probably close. The example-posts are not listed in their entirely but are some of them, as of September 24, 2018, mostly the more recent ones. These are generally only a tiny fraction of all the post titles included in these blogs.

The second list names blogs that are more general in their subjects yet which have a significant number of posts related to living pterosaurs. The third list is brief: other blogs about modern pterosaurs but without totals for their number of posts; other than that, they are similar to the blogs on the first list.

The main list (the first one) does not include the blog you’re now on, which has about 334 posts on the featherless flying creatures, for you’ve already found this one. After adding those posts to the totals on the first list (“Important Blogs About Modern Pterosaurs”), we get 1238 posts on non-extinct pterosaurs, and that’s not counting posts on the other two lists.

Purposes of These Lists

Say you want to learn about a serious investigation of reports of apparent non-extinct pterosaurs in the state of North Carolina. You might eventually discover that a Google search gives a first page that includes two newspaper stories from North Carolina, neither of which involved any deep investigation and one of which was very dismissive. Chose one or more of the blogs listed below, however, and you’ll probably find deeper analysis. Just go to a blog and type in a search box “North Carolina” and go from there.

You can also look at the post titles below each of the following blogs. You may find something interesting that you never would have thought of doing a Google search on. Who would have thought that research had been done, albeit not too deeply researched perhaps, on people who see apparent living pterosaurs while driving?

1) Important Blogs About Modern Pterosaurs

Modern Pterosaur — 156

  • Sightings in North Carolina
  • Essential Nonfiction Books
  • Discovery . . . 19th century
  • New Cryptozoology Book . . .

Pterosaur Eyewitness — 154

  • Critics of Living Pterosaurs Investigations
  • “Pterodactyl” in Arkansas
  • Living Pterosaurs Reported in Ontario, Canada

The Bible and Modern Pterosaurs — 142

  • Searching for the Ropen of Umboi Island
  • Head Crest and a Rhamphorhynchoid Tail
  • Strange Flying Creatures and Bulverism

Live Pterosaur — 99

  • Dragons and Flying Snakes
  • Is Jonathan Whitcomb a Paleontologist?
  • Ropen Dismissed by Smithsonian

Live Pterosaurs in America — 91

  • Living-Pterosaur Sightings While Driving
  • Another Living Pterosaur in North Carolina
  • Skeptical Responses to Civil War Pteranodon Photo
  • Dr. Prothero [and bulverism]

Cryptid Eyewitness — 87

  • Pterosaur Sighting by Scott Norman
  • Civil War Soldiers With a Pteranodon
  • Are Modern Pterosaurs Paranormal?

Dinosaurs and Pterosaurs Alive — 79

  • Living Pterosaurs in the USA
  • “Dragon” or “Big Bird” in Sandy and Draper, Utah
  • Real Pterodactyl in a Civil War Photo

Pterosaur Eyewitness Group Support – PEGS — 32

  • American Civil War “Pterodactyl” Photo & Skepticism [long post]
  • The Ropen and Frigatebirds [also known as frigate birds]
  • Live Ropens and Dinosaurs With Humans

Flying Creature — 31

  • Gigantic Featherless Flying Creature
  • Books on Living Pterosaurs
  • Credibility of a Pterodactyl Sighting

Dinosaur Birds – for Media — 16

  • Press Releases on Living Pterosaurs
  • Confirmation bias with the old Civil War Photograph
  • North American Dinosaurs Dated With Carbon-14

Pterosaur Fossils — 14

Although the title may suggest this relates entirely to paleontology, the posts are actually mostly about the possibility of modern species of pterosaurs. Some references, however, do relate to fossils of these flying creatures.

  • Soldier saw a Living Pterosaur in World War II
  • Young Dinosaur Fossils Carbon-14 Dated
  • Paleontologist Attacks Pterosaur Publications

Ropen — 3

  • The Civil War Pterosaur Photo in Context
  • Ropen Reported to Snopes

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2) Blogs That Have Some Posts on Extant Pterosaurs

Clear Thinking — about 17

  • The Marcy-Beach Pterosaur Expedition of 2015
  • . . . . Frigatebird Misidentification
  • Kuban “Living Pterosaurs” — A Reply
  • Bulverism

Cerritos Families — about 14

  • Recent Dragons . . .
  • Dinosaur birds in South Carolina [subject, not title]
  • Civil War Pterodactyl Photo
  • Evidence of . . . Ropens

Lakewood Learning — about 10

This blog has posts on a number of subjects, mostly about child care or chess or strange featherless flying creatures, an interesting combination.

  • Missing Children and Large Unidentified Flying Creatures (LUFC)
  • Religion and Belief in Modern Pterosaurs
  • Sightings of four flying creatures near Griffith Park, Los Angeles

Long Beach Child Care — about 3

Rather than list the three posts on non-extinct pterosaurs, here is given the URL for a post about why a baby looks up with the medical condition called Paroxysmal Tonic Upgaze (be aware that some persons may spell the last word “up-gaze”).

Alternative Theories of Geology — 3

  • Apparent Pteranodon in a Civil War Photo
  • How do Modern Pterosaurs Relate to Geology?
  • How Does Cryptozoology Relate to Geology?

KSN News Service — News from around the world

(There’s an unknown total number of posts on this subject, or at least close to this subject, but here are a few)

  • Living Pterosaurs in the USA?
  • Was a Pterodactyl Shot During the American Civil War?
  • Scientific Dating and Young Dinosaurs
  • Professors Versus Modern Flying Dinosaurs

Infogivmo — Uncommon bits of information

  • News: Living Pterosaurs on New Britain Island
  • . . . . in Washington state
  • Civil-War Soldiers and a Monster-Pterodactyl

In a Nutshell — Science news, brief and simple

  • Genuine Photograph of an Extant Pterosaur
  • “Living Pterosaurs of Hollywood”
  • . . . . Sightings in Georgia, U.S.A.

Knowable News — . . . from far and near

  • Bioluminescent Pterosaur and Humboldt Squid
  • Hollywood Pterodactyls, for Real?
  • Do Jumping Fish Look Like Flying Pterosaurs?

3) Other Blogs on Non-Extinct Pterosaurs

Modern Pterosaurs — Investigations of Sightings . . .

  • Living Pterosaurs and Skepticism
  • A Flying Creature Called Ropen
  • Griffith Park Pterosaur Sightings

Live Pterosaurs — An active cryptozoologist, interviewing eyewitnesses . . .

  • Long Tails of Rhamphorhynchoid . . .
  • . . . Ropens in Griffith Park
  • More on Manta Ray Misidentification
  • Santa Fe Springs, California, Sightings
  • Reptilian Flying Creature Near Long Beach
  • Can Satire Backfire?

The following is a brief quoting from that last post:

On that blog post by Richard Connelly, I replied with two comments, neither of which referred to bulverism or satire. My comments mostly emphasized the error of assuming there are no strange lights around Marfa. (Connelly had assumed car headlights account for all reports of strange lights there).

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screen shot of a modern-pterosaur blog

Part of a screen shot of the blog Live Pterosaurs in America

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How Many Americans Have Seen a Living Pterosaur?

flying creature roughly sketched by eyewitness Sandra Paradise

By Jonathan Whitcomb, cryptozoology book author

Update on May 20, 2019:

The main part of this post (beginning with the sub-heading “Introduction” and written and published late in 2017) is now updated with more detailed estimates for the number of Americans who are eyewitnesses of a modern pterosaur. Please give more attention to this update and take the original paragraphs of this post in context with the following revision:

Encounters with actual living pterosaurs in the United States are now divided into three types:

  1. Great impression: The eyewitness tells one or more persons about the sighting, with a word like “pterodactyl” or “dragon” or “flying dinosaur,” etc.
  2. Moderate impression: The eyewitness thinks something like “pterodactyl” but either tells nobody or uses a weasel word or phrase like “strange big bird.”
  3. Poor view: The eyewitness sees no form or features that would identify the flying creature as a pterosaur (bioluminescence is a possible exception).

With only a relatively few exceptions, the third type is of practically no importance. The first type is most important, for those eyewitnesses generally report their encounters to more than one person, at least over the long run.

See “Additional Update” at the end of this post.

Introduction

As of early December of 2017, it seems that no scientist has a body of a recently-deceased pterosaur to examine, or at least I have no knowledge of such a discovery and examination. That’s why my associates and I continue to work in the realm of cryptozoology, using whatever knowledge is available.

The words and phrases Americans use for these featherless flying creatures can include the following:

  • pterodactyl
  • dinosaur bird
  • dragon
  • big bird with no feathers
  • flying dinosaur
  • prehistoric bird

An earlier estimate for the number of American eyewitnesses

On August 9, 2009, I published a press release: “Apparent Living Pterosaurs Seen By 1400 Americans, According To Author Jonathan Whitcomb.” Here’s the subtitle:

“A cryptozoologist estimates that at least 1400 credible eyewitnesses have seen, in the United States, over the past 29 years, large flying creatures unlike any known bird or bat: apparent pterosaurs.”

Notice that I left open the possible interpretation, in that subtitle, that a not-yet-discovered type of flying creature may live in the USA but have no ancestor that is closely related to any pterosaur of the distant past that is now known by its fossils. I have never subscribed to such an extremely unlikely interpretation; I just left open that possibility. In my view, if it looks like a pterosaur, and is very much unlike any bird or bat or kite or flying machine, it is a pterosaur. At least I consider it highly likely to be so, in any particular sighting.

Recent findings related to how many Americans have seen a living pterosaur

During the past eight years, however, as more eyewitnesses have contacted me with details about their encounters with apparent modern pterosaurs, it has become increasingly obvious that the original figure of 1400 is a gross underestimate. Why is that? Those pterosaur eyewitnesses who have also encountered other pterosaur eyewitnesses—those persons are more common than I had thought when I came up with “1400” in the year 2009.

Take the following report as an example:

Recently, a man from Albuquerque, New Mexico, gave me a phone call and reported what he and 20-25 other eyewitnesses encountered many years ago. In the summer of 1972, at dusk in an open field, they were talking and roasting marshmallows when the talking stopped. Near to those people flew a huge creature who wingspan was estimated to be 15-20 feet. It seemed to be covered with fur instead of feathers, and it had a long tail. The man who reported this to me is Arthur Ramirez.

This sighting has two points:

  1. Of the 20-25 eyewitnesses of this encounter in 1972, only one person has contacted me
  2. The man who reported it has found other persons with similar encounters at other times in N.M.

Here’s a second example:

Earlier this month, a man sent me an email about a sighting he had in Durham, North Carolina, in 1993. Dane Simmons saw the flying creature while driving. Twenty years later, he learned that two of his friends also had seen an apparent pterosaur and that sighting was only about three miles from where Dane had his encounter.

Here’s a third example:

In June of 2017, a boy and his mother saw a “dragon” while those two eyewitnesses were in their backyard in Draper, Utah. They soon learned that the woman’s brother had several sightings of that same flying creature earlier in the year. The family then learned about a friend who had seen one at about the same time that the woman’s brother had his sighting, but her encounter was a few miles to the east.

Example number four:

A few days ago, I got an email from a lady who had a sighting north of Atlanta, Georgia, in 1999. Years after that encounter, she was talking with a couple about it and learned that one of them had a sighting of a similar flying creature in that same area north of Atlanta. That other eyewitness, however, did not want to talk about it.

Other examples could be given, but it now appears obvious: Sightings of living pterosaurs in the United States are not rare, but those who report their encounters to me—they make up only a tiny fraction of the eyewitnesses.

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flying creature roughly sketched by eyewitness Sandra Paradise

Sketch by the American eyewitness Sandra Paradise (copyright held by her)

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Conclusion on the number Americans who have seen a living pterosaur

As of mid-December of 2017, I still don’t have a firm handle on anything close to a particular number, for a variety of reasons, yet we can arrive at some reasonable maximum and minimum numbers. We need to be precise regarding the concept of an “encounter.” For the purpose of this blog post, I’ll set aside the general concept of encounters, which includes unreported experiences of hearing screeches but seeing nothing and seeing an obscure shadow fly overhead at night. Let’s confine our examination, for now, to sightings in the USA in which one or more persons observed an obvious pterosaur. This is the common idea of the phrase pterosaur sighting.

It appears obvious that less than a fourth of the human population of the United States has had such a sighting, otherwise I would be getting a number of emails or phone calls every day. It’s also obvious that the number of Americans who have seen an obvious pterosaur could not be less than 10,000, or I would not have received so many reports that include references to other eyewitnesses: friends and relatives and other acquaintances of the original eyewitness.

For the moment, we’ll have to be content with a general range. It seems that between 50,000 and 4,000,000 Americans have seen an obvious pterosaur at some time in their human lifespans. It certainly cannot be much below that minimum or much above that maximum. I hope that more eyewitnesses will choose to contact a cryptozoologist about their sightings. My associates and I need more data to work with.

Additional Update (written and published May 20, 2019)

We now have three categories of sightings: types one, two, and three. The first one is most important. These eyewitnesses were so impressed with their encounters that they informed other persons about it: usually family members, friends, or other persons. Other persons include government officials and cryptozoologists.

The first two types could total close to 150,000, and that is a conservative estimate. Only about a quarter of those, however (37,500) are type #1. In other words, of all the Americans now living in the USA, about one out of every 8,000 have had a clear-enough view of a living pterosaur to tell other persons that they saw such a flying creature. Yet only about 1% of those (~37,500) eyewitnesses report their sightings to me, Jonathan Whitcomb.

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I saw a Flying Dinosaur

Although it’s more common, in the United States, for an eyewitness of an apparent living pterosaur to use the word pterodactyl, I sometimes come across the phrase “flying dinosaur.”

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Live Pterosaurs in America

Cryptozoology and pterosaurs — in California, Texas, Florida, South Carolina, Ohio, New York, etc

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Recent Dragons or Pterosaurs

People have been indoctrinated into dinosaur and pterosaur extinction for a long time in Western countries, so they assume it must be some kind of mistake when somebody reports observing a living pterosaur . . .

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Living pterosaurs in England

. . . this is my son’s interpretation of what he saw . . . He said it moved very fast like in stealth mode and was chasing one of the eagles or hawks around. He said it was 2-3 times the size of the bird it was chasing.

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Modern pterosaur

Jonathan Whitcomb — An active cryptozoologist, interviewing eyewitnesses of apparent living pterosaurs and analyzing and comparing testimonies

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Flying dragon in the USA

Not all mysterious lights appearing near Marfa, Texas, are car headlights on a highway. A few times each year the strangest lights appear, although they stay for only about one or two nights at a time.

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Living pterosaurs of the world

I, Jonathan David Whitcomb, proclaim that not only are not all species of pterosaurs extinct but more than one species is living, and they range in extensive areas of the planet.

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I saw a pterodactyl gliding over the campsite

Report of a pterosaur sighting in Spain

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