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An American Soldier Sees a Pterodactyl

PART TWO

By the living-pterosaurs expert Jonathan Whitcomb

Living-pterosaur sighting by Hodgkinson — answering criticisms

I think Kuban would have done much better in writing about this sighting if he had communicated with me before publishing his criticisms. As they stand, as of December 5, 2020, his many paragraphs about Hodgkinson’s encounter with an apparent “pterodactyl” have many grave weaknesses and clear indications of severe misunderstandings on Kuban’s part.

Is it important for a researcher to interview eyewitnesses? Consider what Kuban himself has said: “Whitcomb admits that he never interviewed George. So, if anyone was over-speculating, it was not me.” (I have never, as of April 23, 2021, interviewed George, the army buddy of Duane Hodgkinson.) I admit that I may speculate, to some degree and at some times, but let’s examine the context here.

Kuban, during the years that he has published online criticisms of eyewitness accounts of living pterosaurs, has never interviewed even one eyewitness. His general practice is to take what he finds online or in books and, without asking me for clarifications on what I have written, finds anything and everything that he thinks might discredit the sighting; then he publishes it. That is what his tens of thousands of words have shown to me.

I admit that I sometimes make mistakes. In one of my earlier editions of Searching for Ropens, I may have said that Hodgkinson’s army buddy was a biologist. If I did, however, I was speculating. In the fourth edition of Searching for Ropens and Finding God, I put it thus: “Hodgkinson was not a biologist but his army buddy was, or at least had some education in biology.” Even there, I may have been speculating. I wrote that, because Hodgkinson gave us some indication that his buddy considered himself to have some knowledge of science in general or possibly of biology in particular. In reality, that is far short of evidence that he actually was a real, dependable expert in biology.

Glen Kuban, however, seems to have taken that mistake that I made and tried to turn it into some significant fact, a practically-given proof, perhaps, that George was either a biology professor or a qualified expert in biology who could be relied on. That is what I consider “over-speculating.” From what Hodgkinson told me and Guessman, it is possible that George had taken one or more classes in biology, if he had taken even one college course in biology.

The point is this: George made it clear, within seconds of the end of that sighting in that jungle clearing in 1944, that he would not tell anybody what he and Hodgkinson had seen. Nothing in Hodgkinson’s testimony gave even a hint that George said anything about the possibility that they had seen a bird or bat. To the best that we can now determine from Hodgkinson’s testimony, George just wanted to keep quiet about the encounter, apparently even if that meant denying that they had seen anything.

That kind of denial does not come from a biologist observing an unusual bird or a huge bat. It certainly can come from a man who would like to be respected as knowledgeable and who has just witnessed a gigantic living pterosaur fly up out of the middle of a jungle clearing in the middle of the day. That kind of man would not want to be laughed at. He would not want to appear to be the biggest fool in history.

Part Three: American Soldier Encounters a Gigantic Pterodactyl

Part One: American Soldier saw a Living Pterosaur in World War II

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man is interviewed because of a pterosaur sighting

Two long-tailed pterodactyls (pterosaurs) seen in western Minnesota (video)

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An American Soldier Encounters a Gigantic Pterodactyl

PART THREE

By the living-pterosaurs expert Jonathan Whitcomb

Kuban seems to have taken pieces of some sighting reports and criticized an incomplete portion as if they were the whole story, speculating in doing so. Even when he has a fuller account, he sometimes appears to be blind to important elements, and those parts would have answered his criticisms, if he had paid proper attention or had comprehended them.

Let’s take an example. Guessman and I learned from Hodgkinson that the long tail he had seen was definitely not a misidentification of legs; the video makes that clear. He did not focus on the end of the tail, so he could not say whether or not there was a structure there, yet his testimony, available for viewing on Youtube, makes it clear that he did see a tail, for he estimated it was “at least” ten or fifteen feet long. Further testimony from that World War II veteran reveals that he saw the legs moving as the creature was running to get airborne. In other words, he was observing both running legs under the animal and a very long tail trailing behind the body of the “pterodactyl” as it was taking off into the air, so it was clear that the legs and the tail were separate parts of the body.

Kuban says, “Hodgkinson himself says on the video that he did not get a good look at the tail.” In fact, that is not what Hodgkinson said. Consider now what that World War II veteran actually says on the video: “I didn’t pay attention to what the end of his tail looked like.” Why did he not concentrate on the end of the tail? He tells us on the video: He was fascinated by the appendage at the back of the creature’s head. Yet with an estimated length of “at least” ten or fifteen feet, the end of the tail is a great distance from the rest of the animal, even a fair distance from the middle of that tail. In other words, he saw the tail well enough to make a crude estimate of its length: at least ten of fifteen feet.

A few months after his expedition in Papua New Guinea, Garth Guessman interviewed eyewitness Duane Hodgkinson near Livingston, Montana

Duane Hodgkinson (right) was interviewed here by Garth Guessman

What does that tell us? Hodgkinson was a weather observer for the field artillery, as I recall from what he told me. I don’t know exactly what that entails, but I think we should be aware of one word: observer. That was his job in the military at that time in 1944. So what can we learn from his observation of a tail that was “at least ten or fifteen feet long?” That flying creature was nothing remotely like any bird or bat known to Western science.

Kuban, on the other hand, appears to prefer to pretend “that he did not get a good look at the tail” (the words of that critic Glen Kuban). I do not accuse Kuban of dishonesty; it’s more likely something like subconscious self-deception. Yet I see an explanation for why he allowed himself to be fooled into the idea of “did not get a good look.” Anything remotely like a tail length of 10-15 feet practically eliminates birds and bats.

The following may be redundant, regarding George, but people need to know the whole truth about what happened in that jungle clearing in 1944.

Kuban, in the Nov-26-2017 version of “Living Pterosaurs,” says that George “denies that they ever saw a pterosaur.” That statement is extremely misleading, for it implies that he told somebody (other than Hodgkinson) that they did not see a pterosaur. In reality, George seems to have never told anybody anything about the incident except to make it clear TO HODGKINSON, within a few seconds of the sighting, that he would say nothing about it. George apparently did not even want to talk about it with Hodgkinson.

I don’t mean to imply that all of Kuban’s writings have had only a negative impact on everybody that reads them, deceiving everybody who comes in contact with them. At least some of the readers of his “Living Pterosaurs” have probably come to see things in a new light, notwithstanding they have come to suspect that some pterosaurs may actually be living after all. With tens of thousands of words aimed at disproving the existence of modern pterosaurs, it can become obvious that “the lady doth protest too much.”

For myself, I have come to feel more confidence in the reality of living pterosaurs, after seeing all the weaknesses in “Living Pterosaurs.” In spite of the possibility of bias on my part, and in my potential for mistakes and misunderstandings, the many eyewitness reports of extant pterosaurs, together with the failings in efforts to disprove them, have given me greater hope that these wonderful featherless flying creatures will soon be officially discovered and acknowledged for what they are: modern living pterosaurs.

In that sense, Glen Kuban has played some kind of role in the progress of scientific knowledge, albeit his role at this time will differ greatly from what he had expected: His enormous web page, that has been dedicated to discrediting anything that might appear to support the possibility of a modern living pterosaur—that online publication may teach us, at some time in the future, about an extreme example of a weakness in Western cultural thinking: dogmatically holding onto a two-centuries-old assumption as if it were scientific.

Part One: American Soldier saw a Living Pterosaur in World War II

Part Two: An American Soldier Sees a Pterodactyl

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Pterodactyl Attack

A Youtube video about a native fisherman being attacked by a flying creature in Papua New Guinea, north of Umboi Island

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Pterodactyl Caught on Camera

An apparent modern pterosaur was videotaped by a biologist, Peter Beach from Oregon, in a remote jungle on New Britain Island in Papua New Guinea

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Are Modern Pterosaurs Dangerous?

By investigative journalist Jonathan Whitcomb

[Have you seen a pterodactyl? You can safely and privately report here it and be anonymous if you like.]

Native Fisherman Killed by Something Like a Ropen

The following is not a first-hand account but from a native who contacted me by emails in 2010, and he got the story from the grandson of the native fisherman who died three days after being attacked by a kor. I believe this animal is at least related to the ropen, if it is not the same exact species. [I made a few corrections for capitalization, spelling, etc.]

The native of Tandual Village, Pak Island, went fishing and was attacked. The animal destroyed his canoe and he fought it with a traditional fishing spear.

After hours of attacking him and tearing bits of the fisherman’s body apparently the creature was enraged by his refusal to be eaten: Every time the animal attacked he dived under, and when the light above him showed the animal he would lunge up, doing only slight damage.

The animals tail and jaws took a heavy toll as it followed him to shore where a sea cave runs into a crevice which leads into the middle of the island. Its deep and seawater runs through it.

Badly wounded and backing into this ‘Barret”, as it’s called here, he wedged the spear into a crevice and took the animal through the mouth with the spear, made from a souvenir German colonial bayonet. He crawled out was found by villagers who went to see the animal and told his story.

 

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Generic photo of a native of Papua New Guinea: “The last death by this creature” (video on a flying creature attacking a native fisherman)

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Various Second-Hand Accounts of Danger

Over the past 17 years, I have received hundreds of reports of apparent living pterosaurs, accounts directly from the eyewitnesses themselves. I have found it quite rare, however, for someone to report to me an attack from a modern “pterodactyl”. I understand the concept that “dead men tell no tales”, but of course that is not evidence.

Many years ago I got an email from a man who said that he and his girlfriend were attacked, as I recall, but he never answered my request for details, so I have no idea where or when the event occurred.

I have indirect reports of extant pterosaurs, apparently, attacking and killing natives in Papua New Guinea. I believe those accounts are basically true, yet I rarely mention them in my blog posts or books, for none of the reports I have received have been directly from eyewitnesses of the attacks, as best as I recall.

I also know of reported attacks on people in British Columbia, Canada, and in Mexico, but those are also indirect accounts.

{This blog post was originally on the blog Pterosaur Fossils but has been transferred to Live Pterosaur}

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Pterodactyl Attack on a Fisherman

On August 1, 2020, I uploaded to Youtube a video memorial for a native fisherman of the southwest Pacific who was attacked by an apparent living pterosaur.

The above is about a human death in northern Papua New Guinea.

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Rhamphorhynchoid ropen

From a report in Cryptozoology News, we learn of an encounter in California in which a mother and daughter saw an apparent pterosaur, one with a long tail.

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Are modern pterodactyls dangerous?

I recently uploaded a new video about two common fears that Americans have in relation to reports of non-extinct pterosaurs, and it’s on my Youtube channel Protect Animal Life: “Living Pterosaurs – Why fear? – Plus: a secret.”

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The long-tailed ropen

The ropen is described in ways that actually lead to two words: “dragon” and “pterosaur,” depending on culture and taste. But notice the word noticeably absent: “extinct.” Many people are convinced that they are alive because they have seen them flying over their heads.

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Cryptozoology and pterosaurs

Living pterosaurs? How could they now be living in California, Texas, Florida, South Carolina, Ohio, New York, and many other states? Did not pterosaurs become extinct millions of years ago? Cryptozoology is the study of reports of creatures (or apparent creatures) whose descriptions suggest something other than animals classified by standard biology as extant.

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Is the ropen a pterosaur?

In 2011 I made a detailed evaluation of 98 sighting reports, the more credible of the countless eyewitness accounts worldwide. Those 98 were chosen because they appeared unlikely to have been from hoaxes and also unlikely to have been misidentifications of non-pterosaurs. I made some interesting observations, but let’s now look at only the data regarding long tails.

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Fight with a modern pterodactyl in northern Papua New Guinea

R.K. also told me about a fisherman who died after fighting off (and killing) one of the creatures; it seems that local natives believe the kor attacked the fisherman to eat him (larger kor are said to catch and eat young crocodiles and turtles).

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Pterodactyls Alive – Two Types in Papua New Guinea

green water surrounded by cliffs and jungle in Papua New Guinea

By Jonathan David Whitcomb

A few days ago, I got an online message from a lady who is originally from New Zealand but has lived part of her life in Papua New Guinea. Her husband was raised in the Southern Highlands Province, without contact with Westerners for some time, and knows about the two kinds of modern pterosaurs. Here is part of the wife’s account of what her husband knows about these flying creatures (with limited editing for correct English):

Hi Jonathan . . . My husband is from the Southern Highlands of PNG and has a wealth of experience / knowledge around the pterosaurs -two types – ones with no tail and with tails. He was brought up in a pre-European setting and was well aware of [the flying creatures’] presence, sounds, movement . . . Today he just told me LOTS more about these experiences! . . .

He saw them dead and alive from when he was very young. He has touched them (when dead) and used the tail to play as a sword with his friends. It had a serrated surface and so they used it as a saw on his friend’s arm. . . . [sometimes native boys play rough] . . .

When he was small [the flying creatures] were around in the jungle; his parents guarded him. When they came to the village, people would shout and take out fire to make them go away. . . .

green water surrounded by cliffs and jungle in Papua New Guinea

Papua New Guinea

[From Jonathan Whitcomb] From the expeditions that my associates and I have led in Papua New Guinea, we know of two types of modern pterosaurs: The nocturnal long-tailed ropen and a type without a long tail that lives deep in the interior of western New Britain Island and probably elsewhere. The second one I call the “Western New Britain Flying Creature”.

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Dinosaur Flying Overhead

In live-stream mini-documentary, on the Youtube channel “Protect Animal Life”, Jonathan Whitcomb covers a number of subjects related to these astonishing featherless flying creatures, including a sighting north of Columbus, Ohio, an encounter in March of 2021.

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At least 300,000 Americans have clearly seen a modern pterosaur

Cynthia Lee, who was featured in newspaper articles in North Carolina three years ago this month, is an eyewitness. Yet her mother and uncle also had a sighting when they were kids . . .

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Dragon in Los Angeles

A Youtube “shorts” video on pterodactyls flying in Los Angeles County

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Western culture and pterosaur sightings

Over the past 17 years, I’ve received direct eyewitness reports of apparent living pterosaurs from hundreds of ordinary persons who have seen extraordinary flying creatures, and these persons come from five continents.

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Pterodactyl attack against a four-year-old girl in Oklahoma

Eighteen years earlier, in 1977, just south of New Cordell, Oklahoma, a four-year-old girl was attacked in a rural area, after her older siblings had left on a school bus. Decades later, she described the flying creature as covered with hair or fur and as big as a Volkswagon Bug.

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Popular video about modern pterosaurs

For twenty months I’ve been producing and uploading to Youtube short videos about modern living pterosaurs, what many call “pterodactyls”. The following are some of the more-popular ones on my channel Protect Animal Life.

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Living pterodactyl in Draper, Utah

For those new to this blog, a pterosaur is not actually a “flying dinosaur,” although many Americans call it by that incorrect name. It is a featherless non-bat flying creature. People several centuries ago probably mostly called them “dragons.” The big problem with the strangeness of one of those words or the phrase “flying dinosaur” is this: When a community or neighborhood might potentially be in danger, how do you warn them about a large ropen?

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