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“I saw a Prehistoric Bird”

Gitmo Pterosaur of Guantanamo Bay Cuba, sighting in 1965

By nonfiction-cryptozoology author Jonathan Whitcomb

A number of words and phrases come up in eyewitness reports of apparent living pterosaurs. The following are some of them:

  • Pterodactyl
  • Dinosaur bird
  • Ropen
  • Prehistoric bird
  • Dragon
  • Flying dinosaur

I know that pterosaurs are not actually dinosaurs, but people often think of them like that, for in our Western culture those flying creatures are connected with dinosaurs because of assumptions about universal extinctions that were supposed to have occurred many millions of years ago.

Eyewitnesses who know of other eyewitnesses

How many friends, relatives, and acquaintances do you know well enough that you would tell them that you had observed a non-extinct pterodactyl, if you had seen such a flying creature? If you live in the United States, or in another Western country, you might know only a few persons, if any, whom you could trust, feeling that they could trust that you were not having a nervous breakdown. It’s a big problem for Western eyewitnesses of pterosaurs.

Yet during the fifteen years that I have been questioning eyewitnesses I’ve found that a significant number of them, albeit a minority, report to me that they know somebody else who has seen a living pterosaur. These reports keep coming in, mostly through emails. I see only one reasonable explanation, but let’s first look at what is unreasonable:

Take the case that all species of pterosaurs became extinct many millions of years ago. Let’s also suppose that a young lady in training to become a veterinarian’s assistant sees what appears to be a living pterosaur, in daylight, in the city of Raleigh, North Carolina. Also assume that she began telling people, face-to-face, about her apparent encounter and about her belief that it was a non-extinct pterosaur. After a long period of time, she has talked with one hundred persons about it. Under the assumption of universal extinction of such flying creatures, how many persons should we expect would reply to her that they had also seen a living pterosaur? Probably not even one person.

Now let’s get back to reality. In the middle of the year 2018, my associates and I continue to proclaim that not all species of pterosaurs are extinct. We still make up only a tiny part of the American public, yet we stand with many eyewitnesses of these flying creatures. Let’s now take a look at the young lady in Raleigh, North Carolina, for she is in fact a real person, even though she has probably talked face-to-face with only a few persons about her encounter, nothing close to a hundred, at least not in the first few weeks after she saw the strange flying creature.

Cynthia Lee sent me an email on June 1, 2017, the same day that she had her sighting. Here’s sentence number six of that first email that she sent me:

“My mother and uncle saw one too while they were playing outside of my grandma’s house when they were really little.”

photo of the young lady Cynthia Lee

Eyewitness Cynthia Lee

I submit that the most reasonable explanation is this: Many more people in North America are observing living pterosaurs than my associates and I imagined fifteen years ago. It’s not just the eyewitnesses who send us sighting reports but the other eyewitnesses that never get in touch with us, and we know that they exist because the reporting eyewitnesses have told us of them. On occasion, one of these other eyewitnesses will come to contact me and report what was seen by them, but those are the exceptions.

More Eyewitnesses who Know Other Eyewitnesses

Setting aside those exceptions, let’s look at a few other cases.

Around 1965, little Patty Carson encountered a “dinosaur” that flew up out of tall grass at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. She did not contact any researcher, like a cryptozoologist, about it until she sent me an email in 2011. It seems that it was much later that she learned that her brother Tom also had a sighting, probably of the same species of flying creature (not far from where Patty had her sighting at Guantanamo Bay).

Gitmo Pterosaur of Guantanamo Bay Cuba, sighting in 1965

Sketch draw by the eyewitness, Patty Carson

Near Detroit in 2012, a man saw an apparent pterosaur in flight. He reported the encounter to me, mentioning that he had a relative who saw something similar in that general area (both encounters in Canada, near the border).

Late in 2012, I got an email from a man who encountered a “pterodactyl” while the man was driving, a little after sunrise, between Katy and Houston, Texas, about five or six years earlier. Perhaps that was not enough to cause him to contact me, but on December 3, 2012, his wife was talking on the phone with him while looking (I believe through the window of the house) at what seemed to be a “pterodactyl.” That was in a different area in Texas, and that was enough for him to send me an email and report those two sightings.

To the best of my knowledge and memory, that lady never contacted me or any of my associates about her sighting. That seems to be the norm.

Conclusion

Sightings of modern pterosaurs are far more common than cryptozoologists used to think. The vast majority of eyewitnesses have not yet contacted us.

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I saw a prehistoric bird

I have been haunted for close to 20 years by what I saw in the desert. I have never told anyone due to the fact that I was afraid I would be thought nuts . . .

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Dinosaur bird in Utah

I interviewed three eyewitnesses in Draper, Utah, two days ago. The sightings were about four miles west of the mountains that are the eastern border of the Salt Lake Valley, near the southern area of the valley.

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Ropen or dragon?

The Fiery Flying Serpent of the Bible may have been a long-tailed Rhamphorhynchoid, related to the modern-day ropen.

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Dragons and pterosaurs

How delighted I was, this past March, to receive an eyewitness report of three “dragons” flying over the I-5 freeway in Los Angeles!

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Living pterodactyl in California

On March 18, 2013, I compared eight sighting reports of apparent pterosaurs in Southern California. The most recent sighting had been just fifteen days earlier, between Griffith Park and Glendale. Not one of those sightings was very far from a storm channel or stream bed.

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Living Pterosaur in Ontario, Canada

I was phoning around dawn on a hill on Eglington Ave. across from the Ontario Science Centre when I saw a very smooth brown flying creature about the size of a great blue heron, with an appendage on its tail’s tip, fly northeast from the dense vegetation around the power lines where there was a cliff. I was stunned and shocked as it slowly flapped its wings . . .

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Flying dinosaur

What do these persons have in common: Duane Hodgkinson, Gideon Koro, Susan Wooten, Brian Hennessy, Mesa Augustin, Aaron Tullock? Each has seen a large flying creature that is much more like a pterosaur than anything else.

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Eyewitnesses of modern pterosaurs

In daylight, seven native boys or teenagers climbed up to a crater lake, around 1994, on Umboi Island, Papua New Guinea . . .  the giant ropen, flew just over the surface of Lake Pung. All seven boys ran home in terror . . .

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Pterosaur sighting in Raleigh, North Carolina

Jonathan Whitcomb, author of nonfiction cryptozoology books, has suggested that flying creatures reported in Raleigh, North Carolina, over several years, may be related to what Americans in other states have reported to him over the past fourteen years. One kind he has labeled the “American Hammerhead Ropen.”

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Neutron Capture in Carbon-Dated Dinosaur Bones? That’s Way Too Awkward

humor - hug feels awkward between two T-Rex friends

hug feels awkward between two T-Rex friends

Awkward Explanation for Carbon-14 Dated Dinosaurs

Some scientists are feeling awkward trying to get their hands around a T-Rex type dinosaur that appears much younger than it “should be.” The Allosaurus remains in question were excavated in 1989 in Colorado. This type of large theropod dinosaur was supposed to have lived 150-155 million years ago, according to popular theory, during the late Jurassic period. The carbon dating of this monster, however, has those scientists running for cover, trying to find an explanation. One suggestion is neutron capture.

That might look plausible, if it were just one dinosaur buried near some uranium deposit. But carbon-14 dating has been done on quite a few dinosaur fossils excavated in North America, with EVERY piece of EVERY dinosaur bone found to have that radioactive isotope of carbon. It is practically impossible that every one of those fossils (excavated from Alaska, Colorado, Texas, and Montana) just happened to be buried next to uranium. Other problems also eliminate the neutron-capture speculation: See Carbon-14 and Dinosaur Bones. Let’s look at another angle to this young-dinosaur “problem.”

Indoctrination: Dinosaurs Died out “Millions of Years ago”—Really?

Consider these words from the nonfiction book Searching for Ropens and Finding God (fourth edition, available from online book sellers):

Four years before George Washington was elected to his first term in the United States, Cosimo Collini made the first pterosaur-fossil examination in Europe. Nobody knew anything about radiometric dating in 1784, not even Benjamin Franklin, but Mr. Collini recognized something special about this creature.

What Collini did not recognize was this this general kind of flying creature might not be extinct. He had no personal experience with any living animal like it, and so he just assumed the fossil was of a type of animal that was completely extinct.

In other words, he jumped to a general conclusion about ALL SPECIES of that general kind of animal. If he had done even a little research into reports of flying dragons, he may have come to a different conclusion about the universal extinction of pterosaurs, but maybe that would have appeared too unscientific, even back then. What educated person would use the ancient word dragon?

That also applies to dinosaur discoveries in the 19th century. Almost everybody just assumed they were finding fossils from very ancient kinds of creatures. That assumption has continued into recent decades, BEFORE any carbon-14 testing was done on dinosaur bones. It’s now time for us to take a closer look, for the widespread belief in ancient dinosaur extinctions comes from Western indoctrination.

Conclusion

Forget about groundless speculation about neutron capture creating carbon-14 isotopes in dinosaur bones across North America. It’s time we asked biologists in museums and in universities to submit dinosaur and pterosaur fossils for carbon-14 radiometric testing. Let us be brave with whatever truth we discover.

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Radiocarbon conference presentation censored

A team of researchers gave a presentation at the 2012 Western Pacific Geophysics Meeting in Singapore . . . they gave 14C [carbon-14] dating results from many bone samples from eight dinosaur specimens.

Radiometric Dating of Recent Dinosaur Bones—Censored

After the conference, those two [chairpersons] gave no warning that everything by that group would be removed from the official website, leaving no trace that the presentation had ever taken place

Scientific Testing of Dinosaur Bones—Carbon-14 Methods

A lecture was given in a geology conference in Singapore, in 2012, with carbon-14 dating of dinosaur fossils the subject. All the bones were found to have that isotope of carbon, a shocking finding, but there it is . . .

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Radiometric Dating of Recent Dinosaur Bones — Censored

long-necked dinosaur

How does the dating of dinosaur fossils relate to eyewitness accounts of apparent modern pterosaurs? Those two kinds of creatures have long been assumed to have lived together in the distant past of millions of years ago, at least in the teachings of modern Western societies. It now appears obvious that both kinds of animals lived together much more recently, although two supposedly scientific authorities have censored this discovery, in my opinion, preventing public viewing. Decide for yourself if this is a case of censorship.

It was two chairmen of the Western Pacific Geophysics Meeting in Singapore, a five-day conference held in August of 2012. They apparently gave no objection, during the conference, to any of the materials presented by the Paleochronology group. After the conference, those two gave no warning that everything by that group would be removed from the official website, leaving no trace that the presentation had ever taken place (except for the absence of report number five). The conference website now has the following oral presentation records:

1) Environmental Drivers on the Global Distribution of Novel Glycerol . . .

2) Reconstruction of Paleo-temperature Using Biomarker Diols in . . .

3) Carbon Caption and Storage in Rocks-perspective from . . .

4) Tracing Soil Organic Carbon in the Lower Amazon River . . .

6) Carbon Isotopic and Organic Biomarker Evidence of . . .

[and so on]

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2012 conference oral presentation censored

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Notice that oral presentation number five is missing in the above.

The two chairmen were Minhan Dai of Xiamen University (China) and Peter Swart of the University of Miami. Fortunately those two could not erase the memories of those who attended the oral presentation by the Paleochronology organization. Truth will prevail.

According to the New Geology web site:

They did not look at the data and they never spoke with the researchers.  They did not like the test results, so they censored them.

Why Censor by Deletion?

Of course we can be grateful that a dissenting scientist, in modern Western societies, is not put under house arrest for the rest of his life, like Galileo. But the Paleochronology group is in fact a group, and if they had made some serious error in their presentation, why not just point out the problem at the top and bottom of the online report? Why make it appear like nobody had even given a lecture about carbon-14 dating of dinosaur fossils?

If I am not mistaken, Galileo’s disobedience (to the pope of his time) was made public, probably with details about why he was being disciplined. But the official online report by the Paleochronology group was deleted without warning, with no official record that they had even made an oral presentation, apparently, at that conference in Singapore. No detailed reasoning was given.

One negative result of that censorship was the ignorance that can become apparent in prominent online publications, possibly with the following as an example:

Rationalwiki Page on Carbon-14 Dating

What does “Rationalwiki” say about carbon-14 dating of fossils? As of early February 5, 2015, it says little except this:

. . . “dinosaur fossils are not dated using carbon dating; dinosaurs became extinct 66 million years ago, and carbon dating only works for objects less than 50~60,000 years old.”

Perhaps censorship from the two chairmen of the 2012 conference in Singapore kept the “Rationalwiki” writer from knowing what has really been happening in scientific investigation using carbon dating of dinosaur fossils. Such dating has taken place, indeed for years. So why do we still see “millions of years?”

Is this just a differing opinion about results? No. The Rationalwiki article made a error of fact with “dinosaur fossils are not dated using carbon dating.” For years dinosaur bones have been dated with radiocarbon methods (both conventional and Accelerator Mass Spectrometry), but it is the lack of proper attention and turning away ones eyes—that has kept honest investigators from the truth.

See a bit of what a lack of censorship can reveal

The results of the C-14 dating, over a period of years, are astonishing to many who had assumed universal extinctions many millions of years ago. Here’s a tiny sample:

C14 data from newgeology.us web site

Data source (carbon-14 radiometric dating of dinosaurs): http://newgeology.us/presentation48.html

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Dating Dinosaurs With Carbon-14

The carbon-14 (14C) method of dating biological material was developed by the American physicist Willard Libby in the mid-20th century. He was awarded the Nobel Prize in Chemistry for that achievement. This scientific method for determining ages of specimens is also called radiocarbon dating, abbreviated RC.

An Allosaurus excavated in Colorado was 14C dated 31,360 years before present (+/- 100 years). A Triceratops found in Montana was dated as recently as 24,340 years before present (+/- 70 years).

Recent Dinosaurs

Those attending the Paleochronology  lecture  were  thrilled,  at  the  2012  Western Pacific Geophysics Meeting  in Singapore. Details were given on many carbon-14 tests that had been done on dinosaur bones over a period of years. . . . They [the fossils of those dinosaurs] were between 22,000 and 39,000 years old.

Carbon-14 Dating and Dinosaur Bones

. . . scientific team that presented at the 2012 AGU geophysical conference in Singapore, the carbon dating results . . .

Scientific Paper on Living Pterosaurs

Guessman and Woetzel prepared and administered formal interview procedures with a two-page questionnaire and a sketch page of 34 silhouettes of bats, birds, and pterosaurs . . . For future work, I recommend beginning with . . . open-format questioning to take advantage of unique opportunities with eyewitnesses (the interviewer using a foreign language) and then following up promising leads with a questionnaire and sketch page (using interpreters). [as in the Woetzel-Guessman expedition] . . .

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Dinosaur Bird

long-tailed pterosaur seen by U.S. Marine in Cuba

Of course “dinosaur bird” is incorrect in a scientific sense, for a pterosaur is neither dinosaur nor bird. But an eyewitness like Patty Carson probably said something similar when she, as a child who had just seen a  live pterosaur in Cuba, reported her encounter to her family. In more recent years, a man in Richmond, Virginia, reported a “dinosaur bird” after he looked through a telescope; of course any critic can insinuate that the man had been drinking before he looked through that telescope, but critics probably said something similar about Galileo, after he looked through his telescope and then talked about four moons circling Jupiter.

A few months ago, the Houston Chronicle dismissed the possibility that any “dinosaur” is now flying in Texas, ending their newspaper article with, “I encourage Mr. Whitcomb to come to Marfa and spend six months there before he says anything more about dinosaurs.” The problem with that “encouragement” is simple: My press release that sparked the Houston Chronicle article said nothing about dinosaurs; it mentioned the possibility that Marfa Lights are caused by bioluminescent flying predators and that maybe those creatures are like the ropen of Papua New Guinea, which is believed by some to be a live pterosaur.

I don’t bemoan the popularity of “dinosaur bird” in place of “pterosaur,” for the correct word is hard to spell, as is “psychologist” (which is what some critics insinuate is needed for those of us who choose to promote the politically incorrect belief in live pterosaurs). I do regret that few newspapers publish anything that might seem to threaten official Western dogma about dinosaur and pterosaur extinction, what I call “universal extinctions.” I also regret that some skeptics resort to using the word “dinosaur” to ridicule those who promote the uncommon concept that some pterosaurs still live on this planet, however uncommon (and probably mostly nocturnal) those flying creatures may be.

Regardless of whether an eyewitness called a flying creature “dinosaur bird” or “pterodactyl” or “ropen,” the description the person gives of what was observed—that should determine how we interpret what was observed. Ridicule and official dogma should not be given first priority in evaluating sighting reports of live pterosaurs.

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Radiometric Dating of Recent Dinosaur Bones – Censored

Why Censor by Deletion

Of course we can be grateful that a dissenting scientist, in modern Western societies, is not put under house arrest for the rest of his life, like Galileo. But the Paleochronology group is in fact a group, and if they had made some serious error in their presentation, why not just point out the problem at the top and bottom of the online report? Why make it appear like nobody had even given a lecture about carbon-14 dating of dinosaur fossils?

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Dinosaur Birds, by any Other Name

Pterosaurs have been called “dinosaur birds” by some Americans, although “pterodactyl” is also common. From what we have learned from many fossils, those flying creatures used to be common. Not any more. But according to certain eyewitnesses, they are not extinct. According to certain cryptozoologists, they are alive but uncommon.