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Hot Spots for Pterosaur Sightings

ropens or living pterosaurs seen in Cuba

By investigative journalist Jonathan D. Whitcomb

Let’s begin with areas outside the United States, then we’ll get into the major hot spots in the USA, for sighting reports of these featherless flying creatures.

Shropshire, England

In September of 2017, I received an email from a lady living in England, near the border of Wales. She is the mother of four children, and some members of the family, including the mother, have seen an apparent pterosaur, very much non-extinct. This family had two sightings in September of 2017.

In August of 2018, I received an email from a man living in that same general area of Shropshire, but this sighting was in February of 2017. Here’s a bit of what he reported to me:

A creature with a wingspan of about 4-6 feet and a mottled greyish brown colouration flew directly overhead and onwards towards a field . . .  this was way too big to have been a native bat species. . . . I recall a short tail, but it became thinner and more tapered out towards the end of it.

Rural Shropshire, England

Shropshire, England (West Midlands), east of Wales

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Guantanamo Bay, Cuba (mid-20th century)

I’ve written a great deal about two sightings in eastern Cuba, about the flying creatures witnessed by Patty Carson (1965) and Eskin Kuhn (1971). An important point is that their sketches reveal similarities with many other apparent pterosaurs seen in other areas of North America.

These sightings, and others, are covered in my new nonfiction book for children and teenagers: The Girl who saw a Flying Dinosaur.

Sketches by Eskin Kuhn and Patty Carson

Ropens seen by Eskin Kuhn (left) and Patty Carson (right)

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Umboi Island, Papua New Guinea

So much has been written about ropen sightings on this remote tropical island that we’ll only consider a brief summary of some sightings here:

  • Seen by seven boys/teenagers around late 1993 (Lake Pung)
  • Jonathan Ragu and his daughter saw one in 2004
  • Jonah Jim saw one flying towards Lake Pung in 2001
  • Rex Yapi Epa saw a huge ropen. It was mostly under water.

Lake Pung on Umboi Island in Papua New Guinea

The crater lake Pung, Umboi Island (photo by G. Guessman)

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We now turn to pterosaur sightings in the United States

Raleigh area of North Carolina

Some of these sighting reports have received negative reactions from popular press in North Carolina, but the news professionals, apparently, had only a limited number of sighting reports to go by. I’ve written much about these sightings elsewhere, so let’s move on.

Mansfield, Ohio, area

We don’t have many sighting reports to examine from here, but the city of Mansfield has a human population of less then 50,000. In that context, the two sighting reports that I have received are significant, for only a tiny fraction of the eyewitnesses ever contact me, wherever the sightings take place.

A man saw an apparent pterosaur on June 30, 2016, at about 4:00 a.m., and the report did not appear noteworthy to me when I got it; when I got another report from another eyewitness from Mansfield, Ohio, however, I saw it as more significant.

Ten days ago (Nov 4, 2018), I got an email from another eyewitness in that little city. Here’s a portion of what he told me:

I was taking my brother to work at 6 am. We live in a heavy wooded area where a creek runs through and when we made a left turn and my dad hollered deer. It flew in front of the truck about street light level and I said that’s not a deer that’s a bird. It was huge. My dad said that’s a pterodactyl. . . . It’s neck was long, it’s skin was like leather . . .

That would seem to make two sightings by three eyewitnesses in Mansfield, but there’s more. A few decades before, the mother of that eyewitness (the man who was taking his brother to work at 6 a.m.) also saw a “pterodactyl.” To bad for her but her parents did not believe her. That was also in Mansfield.

Los Angeles County

These sightings in this area of Southern California have been so numerous that one blog post alone will not properly hold all the details in many of them. Since I have written about those encounters in many other publications, we’ll let them suffice for now. (See the link below: . . . Los Angeles County.)

Draper, Utah

Just a few days ago, I interviewed an eyewitness face-to-face, in this community in the Salt Lake Valley. Last year, my wife and I interviewed another family in that same general area of Draper, also a face-to-face interview. Those two locations are only about two miles apart.

I’ve written elsewhere about those encounters. To summarize, three sightings involved four eyewitnesses, within a period of about eighteen months. I have no major doubt: They encountered a large ropen. I am not speculating about whether or not it was the same exact animal; I believe it was the same species.

How to Support this Investigation

Please support this work by purchasing your own copy of the new nonfiction book The Girl who saw a Flying Dinosaur (or buy one or more copies to give as gifts to children or teens).

I’ve been told that the title should have the word ‘pterosaur’ and not ‘dinosaur,’ but the girl referred to in the title seems to have used the d-word when she reported her sighting to her family (Patty Carson in Cuba in 1965). I also came to see that people would remember the title better (and find it easier) by using the word that is technically incorrect.

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Living pterosaur in England

These extraordinary flying creatures are nocturnal, at least most of them and for most of the time.

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“Flying Dinosaur” Book for Ten-Year-Old Girls and Boys

To the best of my knowledge, no other nonfiction cryptozoology book about living pterosaurs has ever been written specifically for English readers between the ages of about eight and fourteen years old. The Girl who saw a Flying Dinosaur . . .

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Living pterosaur in Cuba

“I communicated with another eyewitness, in 2011, by emails and phone, about what I’d eventually call the “Gitmo Pterosaur.” Here is some of what I received from Patty Carson, whose father worked at Guantanamo Bay in the mid-1960’s . . .”

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The Girl who saw a Flying Dinosaur

One new nonfiction . . . takes the reader into a little explored jungle, figuratively and literally: human encounters with living pterosaurs, what some persons call “dinosaur birds” or “pterodactyls” or “flying dinosaurs.” One eyewitness was a little girl in Cuba in 1965: Patty Carson. [about the non-fiction book for kids and teens]

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Living pterosaur in Los Angeles County

“Dragon Pterosaurs in Southern California”

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Flying Dinosaur book for ten-year-old

About a new nonfiction book for children and teens

“Dinosaur” Book for Children and Teens

"The Girl who saw a Flying Dinosaur" - a paperback nonfiction book

By the nonfiction cryptozoology author Jonathan Whitcomb

Why would the new book The Girl who saw a Flying Dinosaur be the best Christmas or birthday gift for many kids and teenagers? It invites them into a new world of adventure in cryptozoology: true stories of encounters with modern living pterosaurs.

I know that those flying creatures are not actually dinosaurs. But when little Patty Carson saw one of them poke its head above the tall grass on a U.S. military base, in 1965, the first thing she probably said to her family was something like this: “I saw a flying dinosaur.”

Even when she soon changed her approach by using a word that was more precise—’pterodactyl’—they still would not believe a six-year-old. . . . at least not until other members of the family started to see similar animals at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

I know that sounds like a fiction, something for kids much older than those who delight in Danny and the Dinosaur. (Six million copies of that children’s book have been purchased since 1958, yet it’s not the right gift for most youth from eight to fourteen years old.) The Girl who saw a Flying Dinosaur is not only what the older ones will enjoy but what they need: a NON-fiction that can inspire youth to look deeper than many adults have looked. It allows them to freely come to their own conclusions, yet the book invites them to consider how eyewitnesses feel when people don’t believe them and how they feel when someone does believe them.

The Girl who saw a Flying Dinosaur is not confined to the story of one little girl in the 1960’s but compares little Patty’s encounter with those of many other eyewitnesses: in Papua New Guinea and in the United States. Those ordinary persons who have seen extraordinary flying creatures—those eyewitnesses have been not only children but teenagers and adults. Yet important details have come up in their testimonies: long tails on large featherless flying creatures, for example.

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Gitmo Pterosaur of Guantanamo Bay Cuba, sighting in 1965

Sketch drawn by Patty Carson when she was an adult

More than that, it explains why we need to believe what other persons tell us about what they have seen, at least sometimes. We need to consider that some people might be telling the truth even when it sounds strange:

“With a person who reports observing something, I give this reason for believing what was said: When we believe that person, he or she might tell us more. That can help the other person be happy and it can help us be happy. There’s more: We can learn from each other.

“For that to always work, however, everyone needs to tell the truth all the time. That does not always happen. Not everyone is always nice, so we live in a world that is imperfect. Yet each of us can make the world a little better in small steps.” [from Chapter 7: Why Believe People?]

The Girl who saw a Flying Dinosaur, however, does not preach but simply invites children and teenagers to consider what only a few scientists had previously thought about: that a wonderful new discovery in biology may soon be made and that science truly can advance in an exciting new way.

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The Girl who saw a Flying Dinosaur

This book is for readers between the ages of about eight and fourteen. [official home page for this nonfiction]

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Some dinosaur bones have been dated to have lived more recently

Since carbon dating became available, in the mid-20th century, many scientists had assumed that the new method for determining ages was inappropriate for dinosaur fossils. They took it for granted that no carbon-14 could be left from those bones, for radiocarbon dating should detect no radioactive carbon from anything that had lived many millions of years ago. [That now seems to not be the case.]

Significant Living-Pterosaur Blogs

lagoon near buildings in Southern California - screen shot of a modern-pterosaur blog

By the modern-pterosaur cryptozoologist Jonathan Whitcomb

The following is not a complete list of blogs for this narrow branch of cryptozoology, but it probably includes most of the more important ones in the English language. Many of the posts are about ropens.

The main list gives totals for posts and pages; these are approximate, but probably close. The example-posts are not listed in their entirely but are some of them, as of September 24, 2018, mostly the more recent ones. These are generally only a tiny fraction of all the post titles included in these blogs.

The second list names blogs that are more general in their subjects yet which have a significant number of posts related to living pterosaurs. The third list is brief: other blogs about modern pterosaurs but without totals for their number of posts; other than that, they are similar to the blogs on the first list.

The main list (the first one) does not include the blog you’re now on, which has about 334 posts on the featherless flying creatures, for you’ve already found this one. After adding those posts to the totals on the first list (“Important Blogs About Modern Pterosaurs”), we get 1238 posts on non-extinct pterosaurs, and that’s not counting posts on the other two lists.

Purposes of These Lists

Say you want to learn about a serious investigation of reports of apparent non-extinct pterosaurs in the state of North Carolina. You might eventually discover that a Google search gives a first page that includes two newspaper stories from North Carolina, neither of which involved any deep investigation and one of which was very dismissive. Chose one or more of the blogs listed below, however, and you’ll probably find deeper analysis. Just go to a blog and type in a search box “North Carolina” and go from there.

You can also look at the post titles below each of the following blogs. You may find something interesting that you never would have thought of doing a Google search on. Who would have thought that research had been done, albeit not too deeply researched perhaps, on people who see apparent living pterosaurs while driving?

1) Important Blogs About Modern Pterosaurs

Modern Pterosaur — 156

  • Sightings in North Carolina
  • Essential Nonfiction Books
  • Discovery . . . 19th century
  • New Cryptozoology Book . . .

Pterosaur Eyewitness — 154

  • Critics of Living Pterosaurs Investigations
  • “Pterodactyl” in Arkansas
  • Living Pterosaurs Reported in Ontario, Canada

The Bible and Modern Pterosaurs — 142

  • Searching for the Ropen of Umboi Island
  • Head Crest and a Rhamphorhynchoid Tail
  • Strange Flying Creatures and Bulverism

Live Pterosaur — 99

  • Dragons and Flying Snakes
  • Is Jonathan Whitcomb a Paleontologist?
  • Ropen Dismissed by Smithsonian

Live Pterosaurs in America — 91

  • Living-Pterosaur Sightings While Driving
  • Another Living Pterosaur in North Carolina
  • Skeptical Responses to Civil War Pteranodon Photo
  • Dr. Prothero [and bulverism]

Cryptid Eyewitness — 87

  • Pterosaur Sighting by Scott Norman
  • Civil War Soldiers With a Pteranodon
  • Are Modern Pterosaurs Paranormal?

Dinosaurs and Pterosaurs Alive — 79

  • Living Pterosaurs in the USA
  • “Dragon” or “Big Bird” in Sandy and Draper, Utah
  • Real Pterodactyl in a Civil War Photo

Pterosaur Eyewitness Group Support – PEGS — 32

  • American Civil War “Pterodactyl” Photo & Skepticism [long post]
  • The Ropen and Frigatebirds [also known as frigate birds]
  • Live Ropens and Dinosaurs With Humans

Flying Creature — 31

  • Gigantic Featherless Flying Creature
  • Books on Living Pterosaurs
  • Credibility of a Pterodactyl Sighting

Dinosaur Birds – for Media — 16

  • Press Releases on Living Pterosaurs
  • Confirmation bias with the old Civil War Photograph
  • North American Dinosaurs Dated With Carbon-14

Pterosaur Fossils — 14

Although the title may suggest this relates entirely to paleontology, the posts are actually mostly about the possibility of modern species of pterosaurs. Some references, however, do relate to fossils of these flying creatures.

  • Soldier saw a Living Pterosaur in World War II
  • Young Dinosaur Fossils Carbon-14 Dated
  • Paleontologist Attacks Pterosaur Publications

Ropen — 3

  • The Civil War Pterosaur Photo in Context
  • Ropen Reported to Snopes

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2) Blogs That Have Some Posts on Extant Pterosaurs

Clear Thinking — about 17

  • The Marcy-Beach Pterosaur Expedition of 2015
  • . . . . Frigatebird Misidentification
  • Kuban “Living Pterosaurs” — A Reply
  • Bulverism

Cerritos Families — about 14

  • Recent Dragons . . .
  • Dinosaur birds in South Carolina [subject, not title]
  • Civil War Pterodactyl Photo
  • Evidence of . . . Ropens

Lakewood Learning — about 10

This blog has posts on a number of subjects, mostly about child care or chess or strange featherless flying creatures, an interesting combination.

  • Missing Children and Large Unidentified Flying Creatures (LUFC)
  • Religion and Belief in Modern Pterosaurs
  • Sightings of four flying creatures near Griffith Park, Los Angeles

Long Beach Child Care — about 3

Rather than list the three posts on non-extinct pterosaurs, here is given the URL for a post about why a baby looks up with the medical condition called Paroxysmal Tonic Upgaze (be aware that some persons may spell the last word “up-gaze”).

Alternative Theories of Geology — 3

  • Apparent Pteranodon in a Civil War Photo
  • How do Modern Pterosaurs Relate to Geology?
  • How Does Cryptozoology Relate to Geology?

KSN News Service — News from around the world

(There’s an unknown total number of posts on this subject, or at least close to this subject, but here are a few)

  • Living Pterosaurs in the USA?
  • Was a Pterodactyl Shot During the American Civil War?
  • Scientific Dating and Young Dinosaurs
  • Professors Versus Modern Flying Dinosaurs

Infogivmo — Uncommon bits of information

  • News: Living Pterosaurs on New Britain Island
  • . . . . in Washington state
  • Civil-War Soldiers and a Monster-Pterodactyl

In a Nutshell — Science news, brief and simple

  • Genuine Photograph of an Extant Pterosaur
  • “Living Pterosaurs of Hollywood”
  • . . . . Sightings in Georgia, U.S.A.

Knowable News — . . . from far and near

  • Bioluminescent Pterosaur and Humboldt Squid
  • Hollywood Pterodactyls, for Real?
  • Do Jumping Fish Look Like Flying Pterosaurs?

3) Other Blogs on Non-Extinct Pterosaurs

Modern Pterosaurs — Investigations of Sightings . . .

  • Living Pterosaurs and Skepticism
  • A Flying Creature Called Ropen
  • Griffith Park Pterosaur Sightings

Live Pterosaurs — An active cryptozoologist, interviewing eyewitnesses . . .

  • Long Tails of Rhamphorhynchoid . . .
  • . . . Ropens in Griffith Park
  • More on Manta Ray Misidentification
  • Santa Fe Springs, California, Sightings
  • Reptilian Flying Creature Near Long Beach
  • Can Satire Backfire?

The following is a brief quoting from that last post:

On that blog post by Richard Connelly, I replied with two comments, neither of which referred to bulverism or satire. My comments mostly emphasized the error of assuming there are no strange lights around Marfa. (Connelly had assumed car headlights account for all reports of strange lights there).

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screen shot of a modern-pterosaur blog

Part of a screen shot of the blog Live Pterosaurs in America

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“I saw a Prehistoric Bird”

Gitmo Pterosaur of Guantanamo Bay Cuba, sighting in 1965

By nonfiction-cryptozoology author Jonathan Whitcomb

A number of words and phrases come up in eyewitness reports of apparent living pterosaurs. The following are some of them:

  • Pterodactyl
  • Dinosaur bird
  • Ropen
  • Prehistoric bird
  • Dragon
  • Flying dinosaur

I know that pterosaurs are not actually dinosaurs, but people often think of them like that, for in our Western culture those flying creatures are connected with dinosaurs because of assumptions about universal extinctions that were supposed to have occurred many millions of years ago.

Eyewitnesses who know of other eyewitnesses

How many friends, relatives, and acquaintances do you know well enough that you would tell them that you had observed a non-extinct pterodactyl, if you had seen such a flying creature? If you live in the United States, or in another Western country, you might know only a few persons, if any, whom you could trust, feeling that they could trust that you were not having a nervous breakdown. It’s a big problem for Western eyewitnesses of pterosaurs.

Yet during the fifteen years that I have been questioning eyewitnesses I’ve found that a significant number of them, albeit a minority, report to me that they know somebody else who has seen a living pterosaur. These reports keep coming in, mostly through emails. I see only one reasonable explanation, but let’s first look at what is unreasonable:

Take the case that all species of pterosaurs became extinct many millions of years ago. Let’s also suppose that a young lady in training to become a veterinarian’s assistant sees what appears to be a living pterosaur, in daylight, in the city of Raleigh, North Carolina. Also assume that she began telling people, face-to-face, about her apparent encounter and about her belief that it was a non-extinct pterosaur. After a long period of time, she has talked with one hundred persons about it. Under the assumption of universal extinction of such flying creatures, how many persons should we expect would reply to her that they had also seen a living pterosaur? Probably not even one person.

Now let’s get back to reality. In the middle of the year 2018, my associates and I continue to proclaim that not all species of pterosaurs are extinct. We still make up only a tiny part of the American public, yet we stand with many eyewitnesses of these flying creatures. Let’s now take a look at the young lady in Raleigh, North Carolina, for she is in fact a real person, even though she has probably talked face-to-face with only a few persons about her encounter, nothing close to a hundred, at least not in the first few weeks after she saw the strange flying creature.

Cynthia Lee sent me an email on June 1, 2017, the same day that she had her sighting. Here’s sentence number six of that first email that she sent me:

“My mother and uncle saw one too while they were playing outside of my grandma’s house when they were really little.”

photo of the young lady Cynthia Lee

Eyewitness Cynthia Lee

I submit that the most reasonable explanation is this: Many more people in North America are observing living pterosaurs than my associates and I imagined fifteen years ago. It’s not just the eyewitnesses who send us sighting reports but the other eyewitnesses that never get in touch with us, and we know that they exist because the reporting eyewitnesses have told us of them. On occasion, one of these other eyewitnesses will come to contact me and report what was seen by them, but those are the exceptions.

More Eyewitnesses who Know Other Eyewitnesses

Setting aside those exceptions, let’s look at a few other cases.

Around 1965, little Patty Carson encountered a “dinosaur” that flew up out of tall grass at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. She did not contact any researcher, like a cryptozoologist, about it until she sent me an email in 2011. It seems that it was much later that she learned that her brother Tom also had a sighting, probably of the same species of flying creature (not far from where Patty had her sighting at Guantanamo Bay).

Gitmo Pterosaur of Guantanamo Bay Cuba, sighting in 1965

Sketch draw by the eyewitness, Patty Carson

Near Detroit in 2012, a man saw an apparent pterosaur in flight. He reported the encounter to me, mentioning that he had a relative who saw something similar in that general area (both encounters in Canada, near the border).

Late in 2012, I got an email from a man who encountered a “pterodactyl” while the man was driving, a little after sunrise, between Katy and Houston, Texas, about five or six years earlier. Perhaps that was not enough to cause him to contact me, but on December 3, 2012, his wife was talking on the phone with him while looking (I believe through the window of the house) at what seemed to be a “pterodactyl.” That was in a different area in Texas, and that was enough for him to send me an email and report those two sightings.

To the best of my knowledge and memory, that lady never contacted me or any of my associates about her sighting. That seems to be the norm.

Conclusion

Sightings of modern pterosaurs are far more common than cryptozoologists used to think. The vast majority of eyewitnesses have not yet contacted us.

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I saw a prehistoric bird

I have been haunted for close to 20 years by what I saw in the desert. I have never told anyone due to the fact that I was afraid I would be thought nuts . . .

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Dinosaur bird in Utah

I interviewed three eyewitnesses in Draper, Utah, two days ago. The sightings were about four miles west of the mountains that are the eastern border of the Salt Lake Valley, near the southern area of the valley.

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Ropen or dragon?

The Fiery Flying Serpent of the Bible may have been a long-tailed Rhamphorhynchoid, related to the modern-day ropen.

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Dragons and pterosaurs

How delighted I was, this past March, to receive an eyewitness report of three “dragons” flying over the I-5 freeway in Los Angeles!

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Living pterodactyl in California

On March 18, 2013, I compared eight sighting reports of apparent pterosaurs in Southern California. The most recent sighting had been just fifteen days earlier, between Griffith Park and Glendale. Not one of those sightings was very far from a storm channel or stream bed.

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Living Pterosaur in Ontario, Canada

I was phoning around dawn on a hill on Eglington Ave. across from the Ontario Science Centre when I saw a very smooth brown flying creature about the size of a great blue heron, with an appendage on its tail’s tip, fly northeast from the dense vegetation around the power lines where there was a cliff. I was stunned and shocked as it slowly flapped its wings . . .

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Flying dinosaur

What do these persons have in common: Duane Hodgkinson, Gideon Koro, Susan Wooten, Brian Hennessy, Mesa Augustin, Aaron Tullock? Each has seen a large flying creature that is much more like a pterosaur than anything else.

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Eyewitnesses of modern pterosaurs

In daylight, seven native boys or teenagers climbed up to a crater lake, around 1994, on Umboi Island, Papua New Guinea . . .  the giant ropen, flew just over the surface of Lake Pung. All seven boys ran home in terror . . .

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Pterosaur sighting in Raleigh, North Carolina

Jonathan Whitcomb, author of nonfiction cryptozoology books, has suggested that flying creatures reported in Raleigh, North Carolina, over several years, may be related to what Americans in other states have reported to him over the past fourteen years. One kind he has labeled the “American Hammerhead Ropen.”

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