The Ogopogo “Lake Monster”
Treatment of these eyewitness testimonies of the Canadian
cryptid named “Ogopogo”, resembles many of the reactions
some people have to the ropen or duwas sightings in Papua
New Guinea, or the Sasquatch sightings of North America.
Evidence in the form of eyewitness testimony is all too
often treated as if it were non-evidence, unfortunately.
It’s common practice for many major documen-
tary producers to either ignore the possibility of
living pterosaurs or dinosaurs or to treat unortho-
dox sightings as if unreliable, simply because
what is described seems to be a dinosaur or a
pterosaur. A recent episode of “Proof Positive” ended with a conclusion that was surprising only
to those who are not aware of this tendency for
standard models to dominate media productions.
It was admirable that they featured several eye-
witness testimonies involving some dramatic
sightings on Lake Okanagan in Canada. It was
also interesting to see several strange breaking
waves surrounded by calm water on the lake.
When the footage was analyzed by a forensic
videographer, however, it seems that the eye-
witness testimony was mostly ignored. These
video segments were taken out of context, as
if there were no eyewitnesses of the lake mon-
ster known as Ogopogo.
Of course, with a name like “Proof Positive”, it
would be expected that the producers or writers
were looking for irrefutable evidence. It may
be, however, that standard model philosophy,
which is treated as if it were scientific fact, in
the media and in many classrooms in America,
is playing a part in how these investigations
are done by the major documentary producers.
This television program ended with a limited
analytical reasoning on the videos of the large
waves. One of the questionable assumptions
used in coming to their conclusions was that
for unusual waves to be relevant to the investi-
gation, they need to show the continuous move-
ment of one large creature that moves quickly
near the surface for a period of time. Whales
and other large oceanic creatures don’t always
move this way. Neither are they always found
as lone individuals. Why would Ogopogo be
very different in behavior? Why should the
producers of Proof Positive use such strange
The main point in the program’s side of the case
(for doubting the existence of a large unknown
creature living in the lake) appeared to be in the
hands of one forensic videographer who had
analyzed some of the video footage of waves on
the lake. This expert did not seem to have done
any analysis of eyewitness testimony. He did not
seem to have been involved with any analysis of
the underwater sonar sightings that seemed to be
credible evidence for one large creature moving
in the depths of the lake. He only analyzed some
of the video footage, most of which was of major
wave action surrounded by calm water. He did
not find evidence for one lone creature in any
continuous swimming activity just beneath the
surface of the lake. That was it.
Some important points that were not taken into
account in this Proof Positive episode:
1) The Ogopogo phenomenon may very
well be of a group of creatures, rather
than just one lone individual.
2) Waves do not need continuous energy
input in order to continue existing.
3) Wind over the surface of a lake creates
moderate to large areas of small ripples,
not a very small area of a few large waves.
4) All evidence should be considered if we
seek to draw an objective conclusion.
5) The question should be: “Is a large un-
known creature(s) living in this lake?”,
not “Does this video footage show any
continuous monster activity right here.”
Each of the above points is relevant either to the
program-side or the cryptozoologist-side. The
presentation by Proof Positive is not objective
research to try to explain this phenomenon, but
may be an attempt to protect standard-model
philosophy that is threatened by evidence.
Fortunately smaller producers are more likely to
dare to consider unconventional possibilities and
hopefully take a more objective position in both
presenting and especially evaluating evidence.
Ogopogo on Proof Positive
Considering the question, “Is there one or more
large, scientifically unclassified/unacknowledged
creatures living in Lake Okanagan?”, what does
an objective evaluation of the evidence suggest?
The evidence presented on Proof Positive is in
1) Eyewitness testimony
2) Underwater sonar findings
3) Video, photos, and home movie footage
Although not all of these evidences gave solid
support to an affirmative answer, many of them
very much did so. Nothing in the program gave
any valid reason to disbelieve in the creature(s).
By setting aside the irrelevant circumventions
of the producers, an objective analysis of the
evidences suggests an unusual large creature
or creatures live in this lake. Ancient legends
of “Ogopogo” may lend credence to this.
What about the expert’s analysis of the waves?
One of his assumptions is that there is either one
large creature or none. He does not consider the
possibility of several of them together. This has
led him to dismiss one or more of the videos as
not supporting the “monster” case. His idea of
wind and swimming fish together, as being one
possible cause of a few large waves, is hard to
imagine reasonably. Not only is it not natural
for wind to be concentrated in the way shown
on the video, it would not be natural for fish
to be found at that precise location, swimming
in the same direction, reinforcing such action.
To those who have observed rivers and lakes,
these waves are made by either *boat wake
or by some large object just under the surface.
Wind may cause a moderate to large area of
a lake to have ripples or small waves, but not
an extremely limited area to have just two or
three large breaking waves. (*No boats were
in the area at the time of videotaping.)
It is much more reasonable to conclude there
was one or more large creatures that either just
broke the surface or were near the surface, and
that their activity caused the wave action. It is
not important that a creature may not have been
swimming quickly at one location, just beneath
the surface, for a considerable period of time.
The theory that the wave action was caused by
one or more large aquatic creatures is entirely
consistent with the eyewitness testimony. More
than one person who has seen “Ogopogo” on
the surface of Lake Okanagan, has described it
in terms of a very large creature.
Ogopogo more objectively
Cryptozoology and living
dinosaurs and pterosaurs
Ogopogo is not the only candidate for being a
living dinosaur. Several areas in Africa, South
American, and the Southwest Pacific may be
remote enough to harbor dinosaurs and ptero-
suars sufficiently to make any major discovery
by Westerners difficult. Not only is this a real
possibility, but numerous reports point to this
extraordinary idea as being feasible.
If these dinosaurs and pterosaurs are still alive,
why haven’t scientists brought this to light? Is
there any valid reason that such an incredible
thing as “living dinosaurs and pterosaurs” has
not been proven by early in the 21st Century?
First, we need to remember that when many
people in developed countries mention the
word “science”, they often mean one or more
of the standard models of Western science.
An example: General Theory of Evolution,
also known as Universal Common Ancestry.
Not all scientists follow the standard models.
Some have no confidence in them.
Second, funding for major expeditions usually
comes from organizations that are aligned with
standard model philosophy. They don’t usually
have any inclination to hunt dinosaurs.
With many people in third world countries,
however, Western standard models are not a
consideration. People report what they see.
What we would call dinosaur or pterosaur,
people in undeveloped countries call Mokele-
Mbembe or ropen. What may be an aquatic
dinosaur, some call Ogopogo.
The producers of Proof Positive
are to be commended for what
evidence was presented on the
Ogopogo phenomenon. Much
eyewitness testimony gave us
a idea about what may live in
this lake. We should consider
the possibility that what the
witnesses describe, may be
a colony of aquatic creatures
that include large individuals.