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Scientific Analysis of Report Credibility

Area near where an apparent ropen flew into the sanctuary

This requires an introduction to eyewitness testimony and this concept: that many professors have been entirely mistaken, for generations, about what could be called the “universal extinction of pterosaurs assumption.

[This introduction has become much longer than what I had intended originally: to explain a narrow focus in an analysis meant to judge how much the passage of time may have affected specific descriptions in eyewitness reports of living pterosaurs. For those not needing any introduction to cryptozoological research into eyewitness accounts of apparent living pterosaurs, you may choose to skip down to the subheading “A New Analysis of Eyewitness Testimonies.”]

Do we Have Evidence for Extant Pterosaurs?

A biology professor in a major American university recently replied to my survey questions about the ropen of Papua New Guinea:

I would LOVE it if there were living pterosaurs . . . But as far as I know there is zero scientific evidence to support their existence.  Doesn’t mean they don’t exist, just means we don’t have any evidence that they do.

I think I understand that position, although technically his statement is incorrect: We do have substantial scientific evidence for the existence of extant pterosaurs from analysis of 128 of the more-credible reports from eyewitnesses worldwide. The professor might better have worded his response like this: There seems to be no direct (and easily available) physical evidence for a species of extant pterosaur, in particular no recently-expired body or living animal available for examination by the scientific community.

But biologists are accustomed to examining bodies, which explains the words of this particular biology professor: “zero scientific evidence.” I understand.

By the way, that professor is not completely convinced that all species of pterosaurs are extinct. He puts the probability at 1%-5%, low but above zero.

Any evidence, even readily available physical evidence, needs to be evaluated by somebody and reported to those who have not examined that evidence themselves. Before getting into eyewitness evidence, recent analysis of pterosaur sighting reports, let’s consider the general nature of eyewitness testimony.

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Area near where an apparent ropen flew into the sanctuary

The huge featherless creature seen flying just above this road (north of the University of California at Irvine) was as long as the width of the road (~30 ft)

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Eyewitness Reliability in General

Eyewitnesses of crimes can misidentify suspects. This is not at all to say that all eyewitnesses are always unreliable. Human memory in general is often flawed; the main weakness in reliability, however, is in details in which the person was not focused and was not emotionally attached at the time.

The difficulty in identifying a suspect for a court trial often involves separating the appearance of two humans. I don’t recall any trial in which a witness reported a bank robber to be a chimpanzee or a gorilla. Setting aside intelligence, bank robbers appear unlike any other primate, similar to other humans and sometimes similar in appearance to humans who are innocent of any crime.

Take this case. A gorilla has escaped from a local zoo after an animal caregiver was careless. An hour later, a lady in that city opens her front door to see . . . you know what. Unless that lady is blind, she will be able to positively identify what primate was in front of her house, and she will accurately describe not only its appearance but its precise behavior for that brief time before she jumped back and slammed the door. Her emotions and concentration guarantee her memory will be much more accurate than if a common human jogger had been passing by her house instead of a gorilla.

Will the police officer who takes the report assume the lady is insane? That officer may have no doubt about her sanity, but his concrete opinion will likely be one of the following: perfectly sane or completely insane, depending on whether or not that officer knew about the escape of the gorilla. Notice that this has nothing to do with the actual mental health of that lady; it has everything to do with knowledge, in the mind of the police officer, about what had occurred earlier that day at the zoo.

Take the case that the police officer was previously aware of the zoo escape. Would he ask the lady, “Are you sure it wasn’t the mail carrier?” Of course not. But if the officer was unaware of any gorilla escape, what could he say to a lady who seems to be talking nonsense?

So consider these three points:

  1. Eyewitnesses remember most accurately what was most unusual.
  2. People disbelieve reports that seem too unusual.
  3. When the cage door is open, escape is believable, not unusual.

Thus eyewitness reliability is more complicated than one might suppose, for the credibility of an eyewitness, in one sense, depends on the knowledge and preconceived notions of the person who learns about an eyewitness report.

Eyewitness Reliability With Pterosaur Sightings

Significant details, in descriptions given by eyewitnesses, suggest a pterosaur:

  • Featherless appearance
  • Long tail
  • Rhamphorhynchoid-like structure at tail end
  • Head crest

To be sure, very few Rhamphorhynchoid fossils include a head crest, but that structure in not entirely unknown on “basal” long-tailed pterosaurs. Many modern pterosaurs, according to many eyewitnesses worldwide, have both horn-like (or cone-like) head crests and long tails, in spite of fossils. This can make many reports appear strange to some skeptics but it makes it more obvious that common birds or common bats are not involved. It’s not misidentification.

If none of the sightings included all of the above four characteristics, we could better understand why biology professors and paleontologists give little attention or respect to the eyewitness accounts. But many of the reports contain three of those characteristics, and some reports contain all four, making misidentifications of classified birds or bats untenable.

Is the Cage Door Unlocked, Open, or Nonexistent?

Symbolically speaking, the cage enclosing the universal-extinction dogma (for pterosaurs) has appeared solid, rock tight against any escape. But the back of the enclosure, what hardly anybody even thinks about, differs greatly from the facade, not that the back door is unlocked or even wide open: There is no back door. But there is a huge hole for animals to escape, and that’s just what those pterosaurs have been doing for centuries.

Setting aside symbolism, soon after the first discovery of a pterosaur fossil (during the lifetime of George Washington), those who searched for and found those bones assumed that they all belonged to a type of extinct creature. For whatever reason, those searchers and researchers assumed that all such creatures were extinct. But the extinction assumption was never tested.

Getting back to symbolism, it’s like the hole in the hypothesis (extinction of all species of pterosaurs) was gradually hidden by vegetation, generations of weeds that covered up the sides of the well-polished display case, making it almost impossible for anybody to know that the back was completely open, allowing anything within that enclosure to escape undetected at night. The decades of weed growth did not block the opening in the back, but it did block from human view the huge opening that allowed animals to escape.

Now to be literal. Charles Darwin was just following the crowd: He also must have assumed all species of dinosaurs and pterosaurs were extinct. The longer that assumption was perpetrated, from one generation to another, the more entrenched it became in Western thinking. By the 1890’s, when newspapers in California were reporting large dragons that killed chickens and mud hens south of Fresno, the extinction indoctrination had made it easy to imagine that eyewitnesses had just gotten hold of some whiskey.

A New Analysis of Eyewitness Testimonies

Now we can examine the scientific analysis itself, regarding the credibility of eyewitness testimonies of apparent pterosaurs. We need to be aware:

  • This particular analysis was done on February 11-12, 2013
  • The data was compiled late in 2012
  • The eyewitness reports were received over many years

This examination was done under the general principle that time can cause degradation of memory. A skeptic may suggest that details suggesting extant pterosaurs may come from such degradation (although most skeptics that I have encountered are not nearly so precise; most of them don’t think so deeply).

To be precise, should we give much less credence to those eyewitness reports that were recorded many years after the sightings? This would be a valid question indeed if there were extreme differences in description details; we might even have to set aside those sighting reports that came to us many years after the encounters, if they differed much from those reports that were recorded soon after the sightings. That is why this analysis was done.

The eyewitness-sighting data was divided into two groups:

  1. Sighting in the same year as the reporting of the sighting
  2. Sighting at least seven years before the reporting of it

For example, a report that was received or recorded in 2012 regarding a sighting in 2012 would be included in the first part; a report received in 2011 of a sighting in 1986 would be included in the second part; a report received in 2009 of a sighting in 2008 would not be included in either part; a report in which the sighting year was absent would not be included in either part.

The first group (sighting-year=report-year) has 39 eyewitness reports; the second, 38.

Three descriptions were examined:

  • A) Long Tail
  • B) Tail Vane
  • C) Head crest

A) The “long tail” description:

  1. First group: 37% Yes (0% No)
  2. Second group: 45% Yes (3% No)

The above might suggest a limited memory-degradation regarding reports of long tails, but this is limited evidence indeed, for more than a third of the first group reported a long tail. A significant number of persons report a long tail soon after their encounter, so why have much doubt of long tails in older sightings that have recently been reported? For the limited sampling sizes involved (less than forty each), the difference between 37% and 45% is too small for any drastic conclusions. A long tail does not creep into the memory of an eyewitness, over many years; it was there during the encounter.

B) The “tail vane” description:

  1. First group: 36% Yes (0% No)
  2. Second group: 25% Yes (0% No)

The above shows a reversal, this time the first group outnumbering the second in “yes.” This definitely does not show any tendency for any eyewitnesses, over many years, to get tail vanes somehow inserted into their memories. It would be more likely, from the above data, that eyewitnesses had forgotten about Rhamphorhynchoid tail vanes that they had actually seen.

Averaging the two types of tail descriptions, the first group is at 36.5% and the second is at 35%, which is practically the same. This strongly suggests that eyewitness do not suffer from any significant memory degradation regarding those two descriptions of the tail.

C) The “head crest” description

  1. First group: 12% Yes (0% No)
  2. Second group: 42% Yes (5% No)

The above seems to show that there may have been some damage to memory from the passage of time, regarding reporting of a head crest. On closer examination, however, it seems wise not to throw out all reports of a head crest just because of the passage of time from the sighting to the reporting of the sighting, for one of those reports from the second group is the one by Eskin C. Kuhn, and that is the U.S. Marine who sketched his memory of the two “pterodactyls” withing minutes of the sighting.

Perosaur Sketch by Eskin Kuhn
Kuhn saw two pterosaurs in Cuba, in 1971

The above sketch was drawn by the eyewitness within minutes of the sighting, showing a clear head crest that was NOT from a degraded memory over time

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Cover, back and front, of Live Pterosaurs in America - nonfiction book

Live Pterosaurs in America, third edition (learn about this cryptozoology book)

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Pterosaur Sightings Worldwide

A pilot and co-pilot of a small twin-engined plane encountered a giant flying creature 150 miles southeast of Bali, Indonesia, in August of 2008. The pilot put the plane into a dive to avoid a collision with what he at first assumed was another airplane. [The creature flapped its wings.]

Live Pterosaurs and Science

After the addition of data from the many 2012 reports, we have 74 sightings in which wingspan estimates were made numerically. For example, in Hawaii an eyewitness reported “Between 3-4 foot wing span, sharp, long beak, featherless wings more like a bat than a bird.” The wingspan estimate was entered into the database as “3.5″ for that sighting in 2008 . . .

Pterosaur Sighting in Newspaper

“It had round long pointed teeth, jutting out in every direction and [its] snout was long and skinny. . . .”

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Biology Professors and Pterosaur Sightings

crater mountain in Papua New Guinea - "Mount Sual"

Survey for Biology Professors

I sent out a survey form to biology professors, from January 30 to February 7 (this year), with less than 2% responding (with any meaningful response) as of early this morning; I doubt that any more will be coming in. Four large universities in the Western USA were selected for the survey, with no surprises in the results. (No university with significant YEC influence was chosen for this survey, but I’m open to suggestions.)

It was short:

Subject: Ropen of Papua New Guinea

Reports of apparent living pterosaurs have been getting into the news and into television adventure-discovery shows. I now invite you to give your opinion on the possibility of the existence of at least one species of extant pterosaur in Papua New Guinea.

Your name will be kept out of all reports that will be made from the compiled data.

Thank you for participating.

1) Before receiving this survey, did you know of the word “ropen” in relation to a reported flying creature? (Y/N)

2) Before receiving this survey, did you know anything about any expedition or research in Papua New Guinea, related to the idea that at least one species of extant pterosaur might live there? (Y/N)

3) How would you rate your belief in the possibility of one or more species of extant pterosaur living in Papua New Guinea? You may use a number, 0-100, to rate your belief in relation to these examples: 0 = sure all species of pterosaurs are extinct 100 = sure at least one species is still living

You may reply to any or all three of the above questions in your own words, if you choose. You may also answer less than all three of them.

This survey sent to, but is not limited to, biology faculty members of colleges and universities in the United States.

Thank you.

It seems that most university biology professors are ignorant of the detailed investigations that my associates and I have conducted over many years (Nobody answered “yes” to the first two questions). For the great majority of professors who did not respond, it seems unlikely that many of them knew about ropen expeditions in Papua New Guinea, or the response would have been more than 2%.

Putting the third question into percentage form, the average belief in the possibility of extant pterosaurs was 1.5%, with a range from 0% to 5%. I found one response quite interesting:

I would LOVE it if there were living pterosaurs, that would simply be one of the coolest things ever, like finding a coelacanth.  But as far as I know there is zero scientific evidence to support their existence.  Doesn’t mean they don’t exist, just means we don’t have any evidence that they do.  Sort of like bigfoot and the loch ness monster.

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crater mountain in Papua New Guinea - "Mount Sual"

Mount Sual, Umboi Island, Papua New Guinea (still from video recorded by Jonathan Whitcomb during the first ropen expedition of 2004)

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Pterosaur Sighting in Florida

Had an estimated wingspan of 8-12 feet and a tail as long as its torso with a large bulb or lump at the tail very diamond shaped, no feathers . . .

Extinct or a Pterosaur Sighting?

Why emphasize old hoaxes [like the 1856 hoax in Europe] irrelevant to critical new sighting reports?

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nonfiction book by Jonathan Whitcomb: "Searching for Ropens and Finding God" - third edition

Searching for Ropens and Finding God has been called the “Bible of modern pterosaurs”

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Smithsonian Attacks Ropen “Myth”

While writing about the pterosaur interpretation of Marfa Lights and the “Huntington Hypotheses” for one sighting of those mystery lights of Texas, I came across a Smithsonian blog post by Brian Switek. I do not question the honesty of Mr. Switek; in fact I agree with his point that an amateur video of a Frigate bird is not evidence for a living pterosaur, namely the cryptid called “ropen.” Nevertheless, a number of problems appear and they are serious.

. . . the chief advocates of living dinosaurs turned out to be hucksters, overly-credulous wildlife enthusiasts, or young-earth creationists intent on somehow disproving evolution . . .

The moderate length of that blog post is insuffient to adequately cover more than one of those three seemingly related ideas, but Mr. Switek avoids getting into details, instead criticizing a Salem-News article for mistaking a Frigate bird for a pterosaur. Of course that was a serious blunder in that report by Terrence Aym (and there were other errors in that Oregon news report, errors that Switek seems to have missed), but the error is Mr. Aym’s, not errors of the living-pterosaur investigators Switek soon mentions. A careful reading seems to indicate that Switek is trying to use this to discredit anyone who proposes pterosaurs live in Papua New Guinea.

The fifth paragraph actually names recent living-pterosaur investigators, but Switek seems to use bulverism rather than reasoning:

Then there is the problem of Aym’s sources. Both Blume and Woetzel are creationist explorers who have tried to promote the existence of living pterosaurs and dinosaurs. In fact, Woetzel has gone as far to propose these living pterosaurs as the “fiery flying serpent” of Isaiah 30:6 in the Bible . . .

Switek gives no evidence against any of this, apparently only mentioning the religious nature of Woetzel’s beliefs, as if that were enough to dismiss his ideas about living pterosaurs. I suspect Switek has never thought about Isaac Newton’s relationship to this, for Newton had religious beliefs similar to those of Woetzel.

I suspect Switek is also oblivious to critical responses to paleontologists like Darren Naish, for Switek then says:

Paleontologist Darren Naish has debunked many of the famous ones at Tetrapod Zoology . . .

The problems with this post are numerous, with no room here for many details; but since Switek seems to rely on this post by Naish, consider part of this response to live pterosaur criticism from Darren Naish:

The paleontologist Darren Naish has said, “Fossil evidence demonstrates overwhelmingly that pterosaurs did not survive beyond the end of the Cretaceous.” He fails to realize that no group of fossils can overwhelmingly demonstrate the extinction of any species in any time frame, let alone all species of a general type. That is not what fossils can prove, even if paleontologists were able to recover all fossils that were ever formed.

Rather than delve into any particular eyewitness reports, Switek delves a bit into origin philosophies. He does not use the word “philosophy,” however, using the phrase “science of evolution,” and disparaging creationist philosophy. But in defending traditional ideas about evolution he makes the common reasoning-mistake of protecting his beliefs from every possible outcome, revealing that he is really protecting his philosophy. He states that modern descendants of pterosaurs should not be expected to resemble their ancient ancestors (therefore modern sightings of such creatures he believes must be wrong somehow). Then he immediately turns around by saying, “even if a long-tailed pterosaur were found it would do nothing to undercut the science of evolution.” In other words, whatever happens Switek’s philosophy is correct. I think that reasoning, if it could be called reasoning, is too convenient, revealing that it is a philosophy that is being protected, not science. True scientific reasoning does not include “whatever the outcome, whatever the evidence, my idea must be correct.”

large image of the back cover of the 3rd edition of Live Pterosaurs in Ameridca

Lively topics on living pterosaurs

Once in a while let’s consider some of the best articles on living pterosaurs, those especially deserving attention.

Why so few eyewitnesses?

I’ve lived more than half a century in Southern California, but I have never seen a mountain lion in the wild. It’s not that I’ve never walked through a wilderness area; mountain lions keep hidden, most of the time. But a few Southern Californians do see them.

At the San Joaquin Wildlife Sanctuary, in Southern California, near Irvine, in the summer of 2007, a man was driving north from the university, with the ponds on his right. From the marshy area on his left a very strange flying creature flew across the road, right in front of him, flying into the sanctuary.

American eyewitnesses (1400) of pterosaurs

 I have learned, over the years that I have promoted attention to the eyewitness evidences, that some vocal critics are overly anxious to discredit all those who promote the idea of living pterosaurs. I welcome comments on the eyewitness evidence itself, rather than weaknesses (real or wrongly-supposed) of the interviewers and investigators.

Marfa Lights and Min Mins (and ropens)

Come with me to Victoria, Australia, along Salisbury Road in Mt. Macedon. Notice, as we enter an open window, that Mr. Fred Silcock is sleeping in the easy chair by the fireplace. Now search for a thin brown book on the bookshelf. That’s the one; the spine says “The Min Min Light  F.F. Silcock”. Notice the drawing of a glowing barn owl on the cover.

Science and Clear Thinking

“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” I believe Nikola Tesla was thinking clearly when he said that. I also believe that we need clear thinking in the scientists of today, at least as much as in the time of Tesla. It appears to me difficult to define, although its opposite appears easy to expose. Perhaps we should be grateful for extremes that help us to distinguish between foggy and clear thinking. I suggest a couple of examples.

Glowing Orbs of the Mekong River

What attracts hundreds of thousands of spectators, every October, to Nong Kai Province? The Naga Fireballs of Southeast Asia have attracted crowds for many years, and these strange glowing orbs have been seen emerging from the Mekong River for centuries.

. . . We know that some insects glow and some insects emerge from rivers to fly away. This may be a large bioluminescent insect.

Cryptozoology Book Live Pterosaurs in America

“The world’s greatest expert on chickens—that’s a fox. The details of that expertise culminate in picking bones, executed differently than, but for the same purpose as, the work of a fossil expert: to make a living. The hope differs: The paleontologist searches for ancient bones somehow protected from the destructive forces of time; the fox, for fresh meat, somehow unprotected by the farmer for a time. Interminable dogmatism keeps both of them searching: one for death anciently; the other, death soon-to-be.”