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Comparing Interpretations of Marfa Lights

front cover of a nonfiction book by James Bunnell

We have an interesting selection here, for interpretations of Marfa Lights in Texas. Take your pick:

  1. Ordinary car headlights
  2. Extraordinary flying dinosaurs
  3. Dancing ghosts
  4. Effects of solar activity
  5. Plasma related to geology

To narrow down the range, let’s get rid of something right away. No, not the flying dinosaurs, for the actual theory is more involved and credible than that title suggests. It’s #4, effects of solar activity.

But we need to begin with a specific definition of what we are calling “Marfa Lights.” For this post, let’s confine our definition to the two types called, by the scientist James Bunnell (author of Hunting Marfa Lights), CE-II and CE-III, both of which exhibit properties suggesting perhaps chemical or combustion properties with electromagnetic attributes:

CE-II: Stationary balls of light that turn on and off and sometimes multiply

CE-III: Same as CE-II but they travel above the desert foliage and below the appearance of background mesas

Solar Activity Irrelevant

In “Are Marfa Lights products of solar events?” by Bunnell, nine years of study made it plain: Activities of the sun had no relationship to human observations of the more mysterious of the lights around Marfa, Texas.

Car Headlights as “Marfa Lights”

Of course car headlights, from a reasonable distance, might appear mysterious under the right atmospheric conditions. But those sightings are irrelevant to the CE-III ML’s that James Bunnell has studied for many years. Car headlights do not fly over the bushes southeast of Marfa, Texas, with combustion-like eruptions. One CE-III was tracked, and it was seen to have flown about eleven miles where there was no road or highway. It was far above the desert floor. This was recorded by more than one video camera, at very different locations, eliminating any possibility of a mirage effect.

Dancing Ghosts

Some people call mysterious flying lights “ghost lights.” But until somebody can come up with some evidence to support this idea, it need not capture our attention or haunt our imagination.

Plasma Related to Geology

In the scientific paper (or “discussion”) “What is the source of Marfa Lights,” by Bunnell (2012), the case is made for plasma bubbles generated deep underground. The bubbles might rise to the surface through fault zones, and a good number of the sightings have been over fault zones.

But problems arise from the plasma bubble concept. Why do some of the objects divide in two, with those two separating for some distance before one of them reverses course 180 degrees and returns to the other one? The separation distances, if I understand correctly, are commonly significant, not just inches or a few feet but as much as hundreds of feet. If some force had the power to reunite two lights that had separated, why would not all of them begin that reunion when they were only inches apart or a few feet apart? If there is some attraction that causes some ML’s to return to each other, the power of the attraction would be far greater when they were close together.

Mr. Bunnell has shown, in his plasma-bubble discussion, that some ML’s fly along fault lines. He shows correlation but not cause for the CE-III flight behavior. I find his observations extremely valuable to future knowledge and understanding of the details of explanation; but for now, I find a plasma ball hard to swallow.

“Flying Dinosaurs” or at least nocturnal predators

Why would nocturnal bioluminescent flying predators line up their flights above faults lines. From Mr. Bunnell’s map in his scientific paper, I noticed those fault lines coincide with creeks, in particular Little Goat Creek and Walnut Creek. I have learned, from eyewitness testimonies, that apparent ropens in Southern California often fly near (or at least not very far from) storm channels or old creek beds. I see predatory purposes in those nocturnal flights.

The faults in the underground geology south of the Marfa Lights View Park surely caused the creek channels to form on the ground surface, but the faults themselves are not directly related to the CE-III lights that fly above them. At any rate, some of those CE-III ML’s fly, at times, where there is no fault beneath them.

An eyewitness observed glowing flying creatures in at least two sightings, in Pasadena, Texas, from late 2011 to early 2012, at least once with two flying creatures per sighting. In an email, he told me, “Do you know what they are? At first I thought they were bats but glowing bodies??? I don’t know what else to think… Other than luminescent pterosaurs . . . . they were glowing red-orange”

Conclusion

The best explanation, strange as it sounds, is that most, if not all, of the CE-II and CE-III Marfa Lights in southwest Texas are from the bioluminescent glow of a group of nocturnal flying predators, maybe even if that means pterosaurs.

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Marfa Lights Explanation

The author of Hunting Marfa Lights, James Bunnell, said nothing about the following theory in his book. I informed him of part of my theory early in 2010, after the publication of his Hunting Marfa Lights.

Living Pterosaur in Mexico

Mexicans may use their own word for “bird” (pajaro in Spanish) when referring to a large featherless flying creature. And why should those apparent pterosaurs avoid Mexico when they have been seen in Cuba? [And Marfa, Texas, is not too far from the border with Mexico, within flying distance.]

Living Nightmare: Attack in the Dead of Winter

What could be worse than any nightmare? In the dead of night, you are awakened by what you fear most, glaring down at you. To humans, this monster should not even exist except in a dream. This one is real. Race out of your bedroom; it’s after you. Race out the front door; it follows. Search for a place to hide; it’s too late. You are exposed, surrounded by many monsters ready to feast. You have fallen into their trap. Your family is scattered, chased across the freezing countryside. You are alone. You are Eptesicus fuscus, a Big Brown Bat.

Professors Versus Modern Flying Dinosaurs

The extinction of all species of dinosaurs and pterosaurs has been taken for granted for generations of Americans; ask any kindergartner. But a recent survey of biology professors has revealed some doubt about pterosaur extinctions.

Modern Pterosaur Expert

I have no desire to beat dead fossil bones into dust; paleontology has a critical role in understanding pterosaurs. . . . however, I still lift up the modern eyewitness, pointing to the human experience of encountering a modern pterosaur. But does that make me a pterosaur expert?

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front cover of a nonfiction book by James Bunnell

Cover of nonfiction book by the scientist James Bunnell

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Blog Radio Broadcast on Aug 18, 2013

Susan Wooten's drawing of the large pterosaur she saw in South Carolina

I am scheduled to talk on Monster X Radio this afternoon at 4:00 p.m. California (Daylight) time (11:00 pm, UTC, Coordinated Universal Time):

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/mxr/2013/08/18/living-pterosaurs-with-jonathon-whitcomb

Possible subjects could include one or more of the following (although I may have only limited control):

  • Pterosaur Sightings Worldwide
  • “Pterodactyl” Encounters in the United States
  • The Ropen of Papua New Guinea
  • Common Characteristics of Descriptions
  • Bioluminescence of Modern Nocturnal Pterosaurs
  • Sizes of Reported Pterosaurs
  • Credibility of Sighting Reports
  • Origin Philosophies, Religion, and Science
  • Extinction of Pterosaurs or not
  • Possible Hoaxes
  • Possible Misidentifications

I would be delighted to talk about pterosaur sightings in Papua New Guinea and how they may relate to encounters in other parts of the world. The ropen has been my specialty for years.

For those who would like to ask questions of me, on this online radio show, I believe you can call in at around 5:00 p.m. (California time) at this number:  (347) 326-9859 (“Press 1 to talk.”)

This seems to be a New York area code, so here is the Eastern Daylight Time when the show starts: 7:00 EDT. Calls for questions may be made in the second hour, if I understand correctly.

Addendum

The two-hour interview last night went well. The first hour covered expeditions and sightings in Papua New Guinea and typical sighting descriptions of apparent pterosaurs in the United States. In the second hour, Susan Wooten and Laura Dean called in and gave their sighting reports, with descriptions of the flying creatures they had observed in South Carolina and Arkansas respectively.

Bioluminescence and flying lights were discussed in both hours of the interview.

The title of the interview talk show is “Living Pterosaurs with Jonathon Whitcomb” (my first name is really spelled “Jonathan.”)

Host Shane Corson afterwards told me, “. . . it was a fabulous and very informative show thanks to you! We have had great feedback so thanks again!” I am grateful to Shane and Johnny and to Susan and Laura for making this talk show a success.

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Susan Wooten's drawing of the large pterosaur she saw in South Carolina

Wooten’s sketch of the creature she saw in South Carolina

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Why the Opposition to Living Pterosaurs?

Jonathan Whitcomb, David Woetzel, Paul Nation, Garth Guessman, Jim Blume---each one, at least once, searched for a living pterosaur in PNG

I am grateful for the many eyewitnesses who have contacted me, with their reports, over the past ten years. I am also grateful for my associates who, like me, have explored in remote jungles of Papua New Guinea, searching for living pterosaurs. We are convinced that many of the reports are genuine accounts of encounters with modern pterosaurs. Nevertheless, “not everybody embraces a live pterodactyl.”

So why have some persons in Western countries objected to our investigations and our belief in these wonderful creatures of the sky? Before getting into those details, let’s consider a fictional story.

During the last weeks of the World War II conflict in Europe, as Allied soldiers were rolling into Germany and capturing Luftwaffe air fields, one German fighter pilot, on the last German air field, was left with one fighter plane still in operating condition. As he climbed into his cockpit, he looked down at the ground worker and said, “I don’t care if the enemy soldiers are about to overrun the field. I care only about what I can do after the war. I will be out of a job, so how will I pay a psychiatrist to help me overcome this nagging feeling that everybody is trying to shoot me down?”

I know that feeling. You’ve probably had it yourself at some time. But that usually comes from looking at life from a narrow perspective and concentrating on the pain of a moment. On the other hand, sometimes many opponents of an idea may try to shoot down those who are greatly outnumbered. Let’s consider a few moments in which my associates and I have been in the cross hairs of our opponents’ gunsights, directly or indirectly. Sometimes we do appear to be outnumbered.

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The True Nature of the Opposition

I have noticed, over the years, that a few paleontologists who have taken notice of the living-pterosaur investigations conducted by me and my associates—those persons, when pressed regarding the concept of universal extinction of all species of pterosaurs, will in the end admit the possibility of a modern living species. But they insist on its improbability, and they belittle us for searching for those reported flying creatures and they may even belittle those who support the idea of pterosaur non-extinction.

Those few paleontologists who comment on our investigations can be ruthless in criticizing us for searching for modern pterosaurs and for proclaiming our ideas about sighting reports; that ruthlessness, however, helps reveal the true nature of the opposition. A few paleontologists strongly object not to the theoretical possibility of a living pterosaur but they object to us who have actively promoted the idea.

I feel it’s not my place to judge any individual’s motivations. But the negative judgments that my associates and I have received have not, at least in large part, been scientific objections; they have more often been judgments of our origin philosophies or our religious beliefs or our motivations in searching for living pterosaurs.

The opposition has not just been from paleontologists. A few non-scientists, at least, have attacked us, even more brutally than have a few scientists or students of science. Let’s look at examples from paleontologists first.

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“Pterosaurs alive in, like, the modern day”

I will not here name the paleontologist who wrote the above-titled blog post. His introduction included: “Here, hopefully, is everything you want to know about modern day pterosaurs, but were afraid to ask . . .” Unfortunately, for those who seek for the truth about the possibility of non-extinct pterosaurs, the paleontologist failed to mention any of the following cryptozoologists:

  • Garth Guessman
  • Paul Nation
  • Jonathan Whitcomb
  • David Woetzel

Those four (I include myself) not only explored in Papua New Guinea (searching for ropens or indavas or flying creatures with other names), but have pursued the possibility of modern living pterosaurs for years. Books have been written about searching for these non-extinct flying creatures, with significant content being taken up by the expeditions of those four American cryptozoologists. At least two scientific papers have been published in peer-reviewed journals of science, articles on evidences for pterosaurs being alive in the modern day. And those books and scientific papers have been written by two of the above four cryptozoologists.

So why did the blog post “Pterosaurs alive in, like, the modern day” give no mention, by name, of any of those four men? I suggest it might have given some credibility to what the writer was loath to give: the possibility that some pterosaurs may be non-extinct. It’s much easier to write about what most paleontologists have long taken for granted and about a questionable newspaper article published in 1856.

Of course this is not an example of the four of us being in the “cross hairs of our opponents’ gunsights,” but the plane we are flying in, so to speak, is being shot at, without a doubt.

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Jonathan Whitcomb, David Woetzel, Paul Nation, Garth Guessman, Jim Blume

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“Living Pterodactyls?” by Glen J. Kuban

The paleontologist Glen Kuban says, “the main evidence for living pterosaurs is a handful of reported sightings, rather than actual specimens or even clear photos of the creatures.” Good point. What that means is that living-pterosaur investigations have been cryptozoological rather than biological examinations.

But scientific discoveries often begin with small steps, and many significant scientific advancements have been made by persons who were not recognized as scientists at the time of their initial investigations. Albert Einstein, for example, was just a patent clerk in Switzerland when he began using his imagination to delve into concepts that had not previously been considered. The truth at first may appear impossible and too revolutionary.

Kuban begins his long web page by emphasizing that supporters of the concept of modern living pterosaurs are “strict creationists or cryptozoologists.” He soon mentions, “Even among creationists and cryptozoologists, only a small portion actively promote the idea of living pterosaurs.” I agree, my associates and I are very few in numbers. Galileo and Copernicus were also outnumbered.

But Kuban then avoids anything published by those few supporters and instead gets into a web page written by a man who is not one of those specialists but is a writer on paranormal phenomena in general. Soon after that, Kuban gets into a questionable newspaper article published in 1856 (the same one examined by another skeptic).

This paleontologist’s web page is long, with references to Carl Baugh, Garth Guessman, David Woetzel, and me. Again, he emphasizes the mistakes of earlier writings and reports, which is not surprising, as the copyright for his page is 2004-2010. Kuban does better than some other skeptics in mentioning more recent research, but it is still not nearly deep enough, even if he were thinking objectively about the subject.

He says that at least some sightings may be from encounters with fruit bats. He then acknowledges that fruit bats do not have long tails, do not grow have wingspans of “25 feet,” and do not have bioluminescence. Why, then, does he say anything about those Flying Fox bats? He says nothing about even one sighting that could have been a bat. But that is only the beginning of the reasoning problems in that paragraph.

He says that the size of the flying creatures “would be difficult to judge from a distance.” He fails to mention any particular sighting, and the 1944 Finschhafen encounter was of a “pterodactyl” with a wingspan estimated at about 29 feet; that creature was only about 90 feet away from Duane Hodgkinson. It seems he says nothing about that sighting anywhere in his lengthy page.

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Photo by Jonathan Whitcomb, 2004, from a ship docked at Finschhafen Harbor, Papua New Guinea

Harbor east of Finschhafen, Papua New Guinea, near the 1944 sighting area – photo by Jonathan David Whitcomb, from his expedition in 2004

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Another problem with that paragraph (the one next to two photos of fruit bats) is this: He declares that larger creatures should be seen more often. But why believe that the largest ones are not rare, Mr. Kuban? And why assume that they are not seen very often? Kuban not only avoids the 1944 sighting but also the 1997 Perth, Australia, sighting. And why does he say nothing about the sighting by Brian Hennessy?

Has Mr. Kuban considered the consequence of his approach? An average reader, having no other experience with reports of apparent living pterosaurs, who makes it to the end of Kuban’s page would most likely come to believe that no person has ever seen any flying creature with a wingspan greater than 25 feet and that reports of 25-foot wingspans are mistaken. But Kubans has failed to acknowledge those reports that involve wingspans close to 50 feet.

Does this paleontologist have any idea of the significance of the combination of the 1997 Perth sighting and the Lake Pung (Umboi Island) sighting? Each of those two sightings involved multiple eyewitnesses. I interviewed both of the Perth eyewitnesses and three of the Lake Pung eyewitnesses myself. Those groups were of different cultures, vastly different, yet their reports of apparently-featherless flying creatures were the same in this regard: The wingspans may have been as great as 50 feet.

If Mr. Kuban had researched more deeply, and with an open mind, and with a clearer vision, he would have come to a very different conclusion. Although he included much more significant information in his page than what other skeptics have included in theirs, he failed to see, so to speak, the trees that are hidden in the deep shadows of larger trees that are ignored.

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Smithsonian Blog Post

I’ve written before about a Smithsonian blog post “Don’t get Strung Along by the ‘Ropen’ Myth.” The original post by Brian Switek was published on the Smithsonian site on August 16, 2010. It’s a mixture of truth and error, beginning with two paragraphs about how Switek was disappointed in his youth by the failure of “hucksters, overly-credulous wildlife enthusiasts” and “young-earth creationists” to discover a living dinosaur in a distant tropical jungle.

That evaluation, which includes the word “hucksters,” appears to me to be a form of bulverism, and a cheap version of bulverism at that. Switek also said, “Sadly, some people still get duped by the fantastic claims espoused by ‘professional monster hunters.'” But the example he gives is an article written by somebody who seems to have been very careless in his research. The article by Terrence Aym was a zealous attempt to support living pterosaur investigations; unfortunately it contains critical errors, including a photograph of a Frigate Bird as if it were evidence for the existence of the ropen.

But let’s concentrate on Switek’s post. Looking past his reference to Aym’s flawed article, look at what Switek says about David Woetzel: He begins by quoting religious portions of what my associate has written, then a little later says that there is no “solid evidence to give the claims of Blume and Woetzel any credibility.” How much that deserves a response!

Switek avoids any reference to what both Woetzel and Blume saw with their own eyes. Switek quotes Woetzel’s remarks about the fiery flying serpent of the Bible, and other religious references, and says, “the pterosaurs also give off a kind of bioluminescent glow they use to catch  fish,” as if the religious references somehow discredit that idea. Switek fails to mention any scientific reasoning against a bioluminescent flying creature, and he fails to mention that Woetzel himself, in 2004, saw a strange light that flew almost horizontally and disappeared behind a mountain on Umboi Island. He also fails to mention that James Blume, a few years earlier, had observed a strange light but at a closer distance.

Had Switek researched this subject more deeply, he would have found that many other eyewitnesses, from various nations and cultures, have also observed those strange flying lights, and that there are correlations between those lights and sightings of large flying creatures at night. Those flying lights and the reports of apparent pterosaurs that are associated with those lights—that subject could fill most of the pages of a small book. Switek avoids that subject, for whatever reason, probably leaving some readers with the impression that there is nothing worth mentioning regarding bioluminescent pterosaurs.

Much more could be said about what Switek conveniently avoided mentioning, and much could be said about what other skeptics have written, skeptics who are less skilled and less prolific in writing than the writers mentioned above. But for now, this is enough.

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nonfiction by Whitcomb - "Searching for Ropens and Finding God" - supporting the Bible regarding the fiery flying serpent (pterosaur)

Nonfiction by Whitcomb – Searching for Ropens and Finding God

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Paleontologist “in the Modern Day”

His lengthy writings, on that one page [“Pterosaurs alive in, like, the modern day”], about questionable reports—they ring like strawman arguments to me, for the credible accounts are entirely neglected . . .

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Woodpeckers, Flintstones, and Long-Tailed Pterosaurs

How far some skeptics will go to find a non-pterosaur explanation for pterosaur sightings! Featherless long-tailed flying creatures with long bony head crests are not misidentifications of woodpeckers . . .

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Review of a Pterosaur Book

This is a reply to a critical evaluation of a cryptozoology book (Live Pterosaurs in Australia and in Papua New Guinea). The original review was titled “More religion than investigation,” but the reviewer changed that title after being confronted with its incorrectness.

Perhaps 1% of the book mentions two missionaries (one in Africa and another in Papua New Guinea) and a few creationist explorers and how the Biblical creationist perspective made it easier for them to search for living pterosaurs. But that 1% of the book gives no details about any religious beliefs nor does it promote any religion of those men. Their involvement is just a matter of record.

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More on Manta Ray Misidentification

How could any person see a Manta ray jump out of the water and come to believe it was an extant pterosaur? I have read nothing written by Mr. Drinnon that explains how such an incredible mistake could have taken place . . .

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New Indava Expedition Planned

Late in 2006, Paul Nation was interviewed in his home by Jonathan Whitcomb, just days after Paul completed his expedition in Papua New Guinea

A new expedition is awaiting funding, with a possible commencement-date in October, 2013. Paul Nation is planning his fifth expedition in Papua New Guinea, and it will be his third one in the deep interior of the mainland; but he needs the funds, so donations are very welcome (use link above on “new expedition”).

Late in 2006, Paul Nation was interviewed in his home by Jonathan Whitcomb, just days after Paul completed his expedition in Papua New Guinea

Paul Nation was interviewed at his home, by Jonathan Whitcomb, soon after Paul’s 2006 indava expedition in which he videotaped two indava lights

The following are excerpts from the second edition of Searching for Ropens:

Although Paul had been absent from Papua New Guinea since 2002, his advice had supported both 2004 expeditions, and the first edition of my book rekindled his desire to find a ropen. He learned that Jacob Kepas had seen similar creatures on the mainland, on Easter Sunday of 2005, as the creatures flew toward the remote village of Tawa. In October, Paul set out for what became the most productive living-pterosaur search in modern history, observing more ropen-lights than all previous explorers put together and videotaping two of the lights . . .

I learned of Paul’s successes through his November 18th email: “After several days of rain Saturday cleared off and we were able to hike higher up the mountain to the ‘high garden site.’ There the national [pastor] from Bianu Village had his garden huts and we were able to set up an observation post and look into two valleys for a long distance.” . . .

. . . Jacob Kepas was in radio contact with Joseph one day, as a few men climbed up to where they could see a giant indava. Jacob recounted Joseph’s experience: “When they finished using the [binoculars] and the video camera, Joseph asked the guide there, and said, ‘What is this?’ and he said, ‘[It] normally [flies] in and out of the cave.’ When they finished getting the of the cave, they . . . . called me [Jacob] on the radio and said they want me to go up and get the video camera again. . . . We walk up the mountain. . . . meet them . . . I [took the] video camera from Joseph, and I started to get a . . . of the cave . . . I saw something: I saw the creature sleep across, but it’s not moving . . . just go slow, so I don’t know; maybe that’s the real creature or just the other thing; I don’t know, but we have to keep watching.”

Later Jacob added, “When I used my binoculars, I saw . . . it had something like a wing [wings] on both sides . . . like [hiding] its head under his wing . . . and a . . . tail . . . but we cannot see really clear because it’s . . . [many] meters away; we struggled to see it clear, but it’s really high [sharp angle looking up]”

Later, Paul Nation told me that Joseph had climbed up higher and got a better view of the indava, but Jacob was too far below, with too steep an angle for good observation. Sadly, none of the video shots captured any image of the creature . . .

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Pterosaur Sightings in USA

Encounters with “pterodactyls,” or flying creatures like pterosaurs, in North Carolina, California, Washington state, Arkansas, Ohio, and other states in the U.S.A.

Cheesman Lights and Marfa Lights

How are strange flying lights seen in New Guinea, in the 1930′s, related to strange flying lights seen recently near Marfa, Texas? Many of the CE-III Marfa Lights . . . fly horizontally at low altitude; the lights observed by the British biologist Evelyn Cheesman, deep in the interior of the mainland of what is now Papua New Guinea, were seen in a horizontal line.

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Front cover of the second edition of the nonfiction cryptozoology book "Searching for Ropens" by Jonathan Whitcomb

Searching for Ropens, second edition, by Whitcomb

On July 20, 2013, this nonfiction cryptozoology book was ranked #26 for the following kinds of books on Amazon:

Professional & Technical > Professional Science > Biological Sciences > Animals > Dinosaurs

The first chapter of the second edition, opening paragraph:

It looked like a dead pterodactyl: not fossil bones but with skin, like it had died recently. Could these creatures, non-extinct, still fly? Although I never verified the authenticity of the photograph in the soon-forgotten library book, this idea—living pterodactyls—would be awakened four decades later, plunging me into the most dramatic adventure of my life: exploring a remote tropical island, searching for giant living pterosaurs.

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